numbers per section

[adam owen]

i would think 50 would be to many in a 6 foot section did u race last year with that number in that section if so how did they perform and how many u loose

[adam owen]

this is the reason im asking this question as im at a new address and will be building new loft just want to get it right as i want to win so asking diff people will get me there also an aivary will be attached as thats something a lot of people advise fresh air and plenty of baths for ybs

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

If you can have an aviary, they really are invaluable to the birds..

 

I thought in your original post you said you were gona have a 10 x 6 yb section..??

[adam owen]

yes 10x6  is my yb section and 8x6 ob section but after learning of hat people have said about the aivarys i will add an avary as well y u ask ??

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Its just a lot of replys are answering thinking that the section is gona be 6 x 6 when in fact its gona be 10 x 6..

 

Yeah mate an aviary is very useful, especially this time of year. Im not a great fan of letting them out at this time of the year. But with an aviary they can enjoy being outside without the threat of bop's. Also can give 2/3 baths a week.. another essential for a good moult

[showman]

Two different people looking advise JonesyBhoy..that's why two sizes !

[tigger]

12cocks 10x6

12 hens 6x6

30 y/b   8x6

12 pr of stk  in 12x6 12x3 avary

36x6 over all

[Guest HEATHLOFTS]

JUST SEEING HOW MANY TALK BEFOR THEY ASK LOL

I SAID 6FT SECTION BUT HOW WIDE ;)13FT

[adam owen]

yes deffo its gail force here at mo has been for a while so u couldnt poss have them out acc aint sin a bird out since racing alot of hawk trouble here and plus its to cold for us to be out there  ;D ;D

[adam owen]

lol i see 13x6 loft but what does the other 6 mean at the end of that   :-/

[Guest HEATHLOFTS]

lol i see 13x6 loft but what does the other 6 mean at the end of that   :-/

 

THE EXTENSION  

[adam owen]

i see

[Guest HEATHLOFTS]

i see

 

AND THATS ON THE FRIST FLOOR

[holmsidelofts]

Adam i would always look at 2 things. Ventilation being the most important, let me give you an example, Steven van breeman from holland races 150 youngsters from a loft thats no bigger than 20 foot long as he has mechanical ventilation in the means of extractor fans.

I have seen this first hand when i visited him a few years back.

 

Secondly i would always make sure there are more perches than the birds in the section. if you have 70 birds i would look at about 85 or more perches. birds like to roost high and get stressed if they are not happy with where they perch.

 

On the ventilation front i posted this below not long ago.

I have adopted this on my youngbird loft for next year and have the stock birds in there at the moment and you cant smell a pigeon in there.

The below example is based upon the ventilation from the lofts of ronnie williamson of ireland, he is one of the best fanciers in the world, 56 1st nationals cant be bad.

This was posted a while back on pigeon chat.

See below:

Essentially this system of Paul Gregg 3 roofs.

Your first roof is a tin corrugated roof.

First you have your main loft roof, you start by cutting the top of the tin ridge

to make a 1 inch slot. It is 18 inches long, and on every ridge.

This is done at the back of the loft.

Then at the back of the loft you put a 2 inch wood beam, and in front of the other 18 inch slot, put

a 3 inch beam to create a slant. Put a tin roof over this with obvious overhang.

Inside the loft you put a ceiling, with plastic vents in it.

 

Please ask Questions I bugged Paul like hell, as its complex if you don't get it.

It can seem complex, but its dead simple, and the best flat roof conversion I have ever seen.

Thanks to Paul Gregg, for been so open, helpfull and kind in helping me, it was time consuming , Thank you Paul again.

Hi Paul, do you have any open fronts or Vents:

 

A. I dont need any air opening in my lofts as i have fresh

filtered air coming into my loft 24/7. If your loft is of the ground you

could do what Ron does, on the floor of the loft 2 inches from the front

wall Ron drilled a 2 inch diamater hole evey 18 inches to let the air enter

from under the loft and exit at the top creating a chimney effect, i had the

same in my loft untill i got the ventalation put in.

 

Q: Paul I worry, rain will pour in the open slots on the main Roof:

 

B. The loft slants 6 inches from front to back, the rain

will never enter the 8x1inches slots for they where cut out on the top ridge

of the tin so any rain running down the roof runs on the bottom ridge and

bypasses it.

Do you space the slots or are they in every ridge of the roof.

 

C. The 8x1inch by slot runns the entire lenght of roof

on the top ridges of the tin.

Does the pipe suck air out?

 

D. The ceiling runs fron to back. The pipe you see in

the y/bird loft is also in the o/bird loft and it brings fresh filtered air

into the loft 24/7. I dont need a fan attached to my lofts as the double

roof acts like a chimney drawing the stail air out 24/7.

 

The system was devised by Ron and it really does work a treat. Anyone who

has ever been in Rons loft have all said they have never seen a better

system, you just cant smell pigeons.

 

 

 

This shows the cut outs in the roof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

hope this helps.

 

 

[jimmy white]

it was posted by the now deceased b h w scribe [vet] [name slips my mind at the mo ]  that one cubic metre per pigeon,, or slightly more, depending on ventilation