getting birds fit by training

[Guest bakes]

whats your views on this i no my views is to get them fit flying round home before i even think of sending them for a toss i read and hear all the time my birds arnt doing much road home so i sent them 25 miles or so on to open them up to me you doing more harm than good i would prefure to have birds exerciseing well round home morning and night nowing that my birds are fit before i even think of basketing them up to take them up the road whats everyone thoughts on this subject

 

all the best

k.baker

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

best way mate your carnt get your birds fit by training they have to be fit before you start training all your trying to do is teach them a gd line of flight imo so they break faster towards home end , i see it like this when im driving and i dont know where i am i drive slower when i know where i am i drive faster i think its much the same with my birds i hope by training that once they come onto the points where i train that they speed up just that little bit more

[Guest bakes]

best way mate your carnt get your birds fit by training they have to be fit before you start training all your trying to do is teach them a gd line of flight imo so they break faster towards home end , i see it like this when im driving and i dont know where i am i drive slower when i know where i am i drive faster i think its much the same with my birds i hope by training that once they come onto the points where i train that they speed up just that little bit more

 

same views i have rob wonce i no my birds are fit i take them but would never take them to try to get them fit as i would be doing more harm than good i look at training as learns them the breaking point for the last few miles when they get to the point on race day they are more a famular with the area so they  speed up for the last few miles to they reach the lofts its the way i was told get them fit flying round home first before thinking of sending up the road for toss

 

all the best.

[NW USA]

Unfortunately for some of us our birds are more interested in procreating in the spring then loft flying or we are unable to have them out much, and starting with short tosses and building their fitness is a must if we are to race the whole series. It can be done without hurting them.

[Tony C]

The way I see it is with fitness comes sharper thinking, the fitter they are the more tuned in they are. Losses are fewer and their confidence rises. Get them fit round home first (you'll be surprised how quick this can be achieved) then put them on the road.

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

whats your views on this i no my views is to get them fit flying round home before i even think of sending them for a toss i read and hear all the time my birds arnt doing much road home so i sent them 25 miles or so on to open them up to me you doing more harm than good i would prefure to have birds exerciseing well round home morning and night nowing that my birds are fit before i even think of basketing them up to take them up the road whats everyone thoughts on this subject

 

all the best

k.baker

 

Best way i know is to give birds open hole for 3 weeks before racing starts   ;)

[stantheman]

if i left mine on the open hole i would lose loads to the sparrowhawks, i dont have mine out much during winter for various reasons and they are now flying at least 1hr morning and night its only took 3 weeks to get to this level of fitness i have given them 3 20 milers this week and they have made light work of it but i would not have gone trainig if they had not been flying so well round the loft

hope this helps all best stan

[ritchie1]

its ok saying to get the birds fit before training but if you cant get the birds out every day to get them fit you have no choice than to train them when you get a chance my birds are not geting out for weather but they have been two tosses of 20 miles and the birds are looking good so cant complain really but would like to get them out every day but at this time of year you simply cant so tossing the birds must be done when weather is good on the day

[boxer]

whats your views on this i no my views is to get them fit flying round home before i even think of sending them for a toss i read and hear all the time my birds arnt doing much road home so i sent them 25 miles or so on to open them up to me you doing more harm than good i would prefure to have birds exerciseing well round home morning and night nowing that my birds are fit before i even think of basketing them up to take them up the road whats everyone thoughts on this subject

 

all the best

k.baker

Totaly agree with u bakes or the hawk tends to pick them off to easy if not fit.

 

 

[Guest mick bowler]

Birds have to have a certain level of fitness before training, but if there are "race fit" then why train at all, its not like your trying to teach them where they live!

 

Short spins, 15 to 20 miles, will sharpen them up, without doing too much harm. Longer tosses will have no extra benefit at all.

[peterpau]

Loads o' good things said on this thread. Mine get half a dozen 10 milers at most then in to inland racing 6 /8 weeks before there target race. Tarbes international being the main one for me this year. They will get one water race before that.  

[Guest pigeon82]

my birds have had 15 tosses ranging from 2 to 32 miles(if weathers bad i dont take them far and i will do this no matter wat how far i have them up the road but then just before racing i usually give them 1 6 mile toss single throws so they do that last bit themselves) and coming really well they are about to get a 50 miler today first time for half have never been trained past 30 miles as they are latebreds but will see wat happens rol onsaturday till we get first race under our belts

[Guest mick bowler]

my birds have had 15 tosses ranging from 2 to 32 miles(if weathers bad i dont take them far and i will do this no matter wat how far i have them up the road but then just before racing i usually give them 1 6 mile toss single throws so they do that last bit themselves) and coming really well they are about to get a 50 miler today first time for half have never been trained past 30 miles as they are latebreds but will see wat happens rol onsaturday till we get first race under our belts

 

IMO wasting your time, just give them  20 milers every day (twice if you can) til the first race.

 

 

[Guest pigeon82]

 

IMO wasting your time, just give them  20 milers every day (twice if you can) til the first race.

 

 

i know wat your saying mick but last year was first year racing with young birds mate and i done exactly the same then they went on fed lorry upto 60 miles 2 or 3 times and i had a good result winning top yb flier just dont wanna change anything yet to see if the good fortune continues or it was a one off mate also my ybs had first toss yesterday at 2 miles all homed together was happy with that but if it dont work this year then try summit different next year like you say i might do 20 mile chucks each day but till it stops working then i dont wanna change anything but thats my veiws but ur veiws much appreciated but am not knocking them i may resort to them pal if you know wat i mean

 

 

[ritchie1]

all the birds need is three 20 mile tosses thats enough the first race only 70 miles three tosses is enough to sharpen them up and bang them in weather permitting

[Guest pigeon82]

our first race is 97 miles but for most in our area 100+ miles its a hard area to fly into is derry from wat everyone says a bird can fly in here but cant get out really hilly around us and if you ask the other irish lads they witell you same very hard area

[ritchie1]

yes same here you wont get any harder than the north east thats for sure only the best is left

[Guest mick bowler]

I'd swap you all for where i live!!

 

[Guest pigeon82]

you would swap for derry mick i cant beleive that you ask the rest of them around here they would probably swap no problem lol

[Guest mick bowler]

Jaysus a piece a cake flying into Derry! ;D

 

[Guest pigeon82]

pmsl if only you knew half what peoplesay lol ;D ;D

[Guest mick bowler]

pmsl if only you knew half what peoplesay lol ;D ;D

 

lol id still swap Derry for here! lol

 

 

[Guest pigeon82]

ur nuts lol

[dwh]

THEY NEED TO BE GOING WELL RUND THE LOFT  TWICE A DAY YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT THE BASKET JMO

[Guest mick bowler]

ur nuts lol

 

See if you can find Doughmakeon, Louisburgh on Google earth. A mile from the Atlantic ocean, surrounded 3 sides by mountains and the other by the sea, mountains all within 10 miles of me, including two of the highest peaks in Ireland, and then Connemara (the 12 bens) to the south, Partry mountains and The Ox mountains on my racing line within 20 miles! Any wind with west is a head wind, and with an almost constant sea "breeze" (rarely under 10 MPH), my birds avearged 3-4 days exercise per week last year! Nuts? I must be to try to race pigeons here!! lol