Setting the reality straight.

[pjc]

 

only pointing out that that is what we are up against so count it all up phil

 

I know, but for the unions to employ a pr company with 1/2 a chance of getting the point through thats what the members wold also need to be contributing with the income from Blackpool etc.

If more fund are required and 2 people stood on a corner with collecting tins, 1 from the RSPB and a pigeon fancier whose tin will have the money put into?

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Bigda, I will answer just this once. Not going to get drawn into a 'Cobblers crap scenario' by you and  / or yours. The post states that YES we have a site, bought and paid for etc.. A website actually as we speak being sorted and pages added to. No! No donations or 'Birds sales' have go towards it's costs, or any other. That, as I said is as I stated. Now anything and everything you, or any one else needs to know has been posted if you cared to read, preferably fully and not to pick willy nilly.  All other updates will be posted as and when available, or when decisions, or functions have been made. Yes I am also a member of Pigeon Chat and Pigeonbasic.net. But I don't and won't try or attempted to trip you and  / or them up. Hope you do some good as well, further leave us to do as we will and hopefully achieve some goals..

As for that soap box crack ... streuth that's like buckets of soot calling a little sapphire black.

So enough said on that, and nowt else needed to say as it is, as always been said.

 

Just you keep up the good work you are doing Roland, the genuine fanciers will fully support you

[Guest IB]

Try this link. Takes a while to download 2Mb and first two pages of report are blank for some reason.

 

http://www.snh.org.uk/pdfs/PIGEONS_RAPTORS_REPORT.pdf

 

[sammy]

1 from the RSPB and a pigeon fancier whose tin will have the money put into? know what you mean phil they would put into rspb tin and JAIL the pigeon fancier for BEGGING  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pjc]

1 from the RSPB and a pigeon fancier whose tin will have the money put into? know what you mean phil they would put into rspb tin and JAIL the pigeon fancier for BEGGING  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Exactly!  ;D ;D ;D

Just demonstrates the mountain the fancy has to climb!

[Roland]

yep tossh,  it might  well be,  but should it come to a vote from the four unions to make an announcement, what would be  my next hurdle, taking in all the support that you have amassed  in you  campaign, while dreams of yesteryears, to have such an announcement on a vote would you and yours support it 100%.

 

Of course. Also when I run for President of the RPRA I will promise a slice of 'Moon Cheese' to every single member, if they vote for me.

Nothing wrong at all with the theory. Like I say I advocated itonce! I'm sure the P.O.B would also give it serious thought as to whether they'd back it or not if ever the case arose that that ANY of the 4 bodies proposed it, even thought about it. But then like you, we can promise any and every thing when the certainty is that it will never happen.

But then that is the great thing about that 'Pie in the sky', It can be any sort of flavour you care for, orlike.

[Guest bigda]

by admittance, your own campaign is now, no more than what would be, rather than what could be, you prefer the lets all  talk campaign, when in reality sosb, have at this very minute addressed the  eagle owls in Cardiff  and have led the way as

with there acute acrimony, as one say you don't need to be the best "speller" in the world, to  let the world no what your are saying  wake up and smell the coffie get your head off the pillow

[Roland]

I doubt Bigda, that even you know what you are on about.... except proving yet again that you are one of the ones this very thread was on about.  Indeed it was many of your' stupid quotes and silly question that were paste on here in the first post just to show what stupid rot such as spout! But again doubt you even realised that! So as you are as such, it is for all the forum to see. Yes you are definately wanting to, and certainly deserve to wear 'The Hat'. So it's in the post, full stop! Spent 30 second reading and that is 29 seconds too long.

[Guest]

by admittance, your own campaign is now, no more than what would be, rather than what could be, you prefer the lets all  talk campaign, when in reality sosb, have at this very minute addressed the  eagle owls in Cardiff  and have led the way as with there acute acrimony, as one say you don't need to be the best "speller" in the world, to  let the world no what your are saying  wake up and smell the coffie get your head off the pillow

Tell us Bigda, what is it you've actually contributed in any shape or form to any of these campaigns, more specifically Rolands which you constantly condemn?  If you put your money where you mouth is and donate, or if you don't have money simply offer constructive advice and information instead of the mindless critisism you constantly offer then you'll earn the right to criticise, until then I think in a nutshell the general consensus would be to either put up or shut up.

 

[sammy]

Tell us Bigda, what is it you've actually contributed in any shape or form to any of these campaigns, more specifically Rolands which you constantly condemn?  If you put your money where you mouth is and donate, or if you don't have money simply offer constructive advice and information instead of the mindless critisism you constantly offer then you'll earn the right to criticise, until then I think in a nutshell the general consensus would be to either put up or shut up.

 

well said and before time ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[white logan]

 

Exactly!  ;D ;D ;D

Just demonstrates the mountain the fancy has to climb!

 

here we go again phil , and what a mountain , with the RSPB's huge finacial reserves and they way it has all but control of DEFRA , there is only one senscible solution to tackle this david and goliath problem , follow what lenwadebob sujested

[Guest bigda]

Tell us Bigda, what is it you've actually contributed in any shape or form to any of these campaigns, more specifically Rolands which you constantly condemn?  If you put your money where you mouth is and donate, or if you don't have money simply offer constructive advice and information instead of the mindless critisism you constantly offer then you'll earn the right to criticise, until then I think in a nutshell the general consensus would be to either put up or shut up.

 

i have said before i will not  give money when i do not no who hold the chair  and this campain remineds me  of a  pinaya  you have to hit it with a stick and keep yer eyes shut and even then very litle comes out

[white logan]

 

i have said before i will not  give money when i do not no who hold the chair  and this campain remineds me  of a  pinaya  you have to hit it with a stick and keep yer eyes shut and even then very litle comes out

 

fair point bigda , parting with money to who ?, then you dont know who is spending it on what

[Guest]

 

i have said before i will not  give money when i do not no who hold the chair  and this campain remineds me  of a  pinaya  you have to hit it with a stick and keep yer eyes shut and even then very litle comes out

You know, I'd accept that argument if the following wasn't true, and what would knowing the committee achieve for you?  Peace of mind you have names to something?

 

Answer this;

 

How many people actually know or care for that matter who the committees are of the the RPRA, Greenpeace, Childline, the Salvation Army or ANY Charity or other organisation is for that matter?  The hard truth of the matter is 99.9% of us wouldn't know or don't even want to know who they are but still donate, I would confidently bet that even you have at some time given to some charity without even batting an eyelid over who runs it, this should be no different here, or are you suggesting something?

 

 

[Roland]

Sad, it's so sad. You are so sad white logan, and predicable. Indeed you and your silly little in crowd.

Might be the best thing since slice bread keeping birds in! Might even be better to drop a atom bomb on their' head quarters... But it won't happen which is something even you must realise. But bleat on. Would be nice for you to wake up and smell the coffee.... Sorry you have and don't like the smell I know. So you will nip at the heels in a senile stupidity spouting dreams of an ideal world where fairies bring honey and chocolate is brought home by the white doves of peace. Even you are not that stupid -- well  :-/ but then again this is what you're about isn't it. It doesn't suit your' clichés' purpose and true goals does it!

Show and make a start. Be a leader and set an example... you keep your birds in for 2 - 3 years. If you have any!

There we have it! Two spouters wanting to their' keep the birds in .... but won't because others won't lol.

Sad jokes who are suceeding - unfortunately via me - in gaining their goal in as much as disrupting and stifflng any genuine eforts by good and genuine people that are trying help, to actually do something.

So I for one won't bother answering to have beens that never were. This time I mean it, because you have been judged, accessed and found wanting... So no need to answer s there ;D.

[white logan]

Sad, it's so sad. You are so sad white logan, and predicable. Indeed you and your silly little in crowd.

Might be the best thing since slice bread keeping birds in! Might even be better to drop a atom bomb on their' head quarters... But it won't happen which is something even you must realise. But bleat on. Would be nice for you to wake up and smell the coffee.... Sorry you have and don't like the smell I know. So you will nip at the heels in a senile stupidity spouting dreams of an ideal world where fairies bring honey and chocolate is brought home by the white doves of peace. Even you are not that stupid -- well  :-/ but then again this is what you're about isn't it. It doesn't suit your' clichés' purpose and true goals does it!

Show and make a start. Be a leader and set an example... you keep your birds in for 2 - 3 years. If you have any!

There we have it! Two spouters wanting to their' keep the birds in .... but won't because others won't lol.

Sad jokes who are suceeding - unfortunately via me - in gaining their goal in as much as disrupting and stifflng any genuine eforts by good and genuine people that are trying help, to actually do something.

So I for one won't bother answering to have beens that never were. This time I mean it, because you have been judged, accessed and found wanting... So no need to answer s there ;D.

 

 

 

sad i may be , but i am not asking people to part with their hard earned money to an organisation that officially does not exist , you wan to get real , people parting with money like to know its not going to end up in your "bahamas fund"

[Guest bigda]

;D

[Guest]

Roland, now I am not intending to hijack your thread, nor am I requesting you name your POB Committee, BUT I am asking you to name the clique, you keep referring to as the "Keep The Birds In" campaign. I thought I had previously mentioned on this thread that I personally was not starting ANY campaign regarding confining birds. I do believe I simply stated MY opinion on the subject.

The fact that my opinion, seems to hold a fair amount of 'favour' from people on here, and from fanciers within my club, shows that there is some interest in it, or it would have been shot down in flames from the start. Please enlighten me and name the members of this non-existent clique, because I can assure you I am not party to this information.

Like my view, the views of other people who think the idea is a good one, it is purely a personal opinion.

[Roland]

:) Sad   :(   ;D ;D ;D And I'm oh so truthful eh!  ;D ;D

[Guest]

:) Sad   :(   ;D ;D ;D And I'm oh so truthful eh!  ;D ;D

 

So you are calling me a liar then :-/ :-/

[Roland]

Exactly lenwadebob, and you have, and are showing the decency of allowing others to da as they wish and not trying to belittle or thawt others progress. Like I said to you, you are sharp enough to know what is what and have respect, unlike some sad folks.

Yes I would keep in for three years if I was cutting my nose off to spite my face. If the whole lot of us that agreed to it actually did it, that would me 50 people tops first couple of weeks and then as people realised that in it's self, 4 weeks later they'd be 5 - 8 of us. hardly make a dent that lenwadebob.

Fine by me if you get a following crowd to do that, count me in. Unlike some sad folks on here, I actual am one that puts up or shuts up.

[Guest bigda]

:X ;D thought of another  game to play, pin the  tail on the donkey 8)

[white logan]

:) Sad   :(   ;D ;D ;D And I'm oh so truthful eh!  ;D ;D

 

how come that it is only your oppinion that counts ?, if someone starts to think outside of your singular braincell you start with personal attacks ,

well roland you have a  few problems , one is a lot of people dont want to part with money to an unknown person/group of people

your bitching and personal attacks do not endear your campain to some people so instead of recruting , your frightening them away

learn to except that some may have ideas of their own that may be outside your school of thought

and if you think you have anonymity , think again , the protectionists allready know who you are so why not be up front and get the support from the ranks where your trying to seek it instead of having a "pop" at people who may support you

[Roland]

Being sillier than ever if possible lol     :) ;D ;D

[white logan]

Being sillier than ever if possible lol     :) ;D ;D

 

not as silly as you rolly , come on folks , pay money to an organisation that is not named , not known and cannot be iddentified , tell me rolly WHAT YOU REALY GOING TO USE THE MONEY FOR NEW CAR  holidays ?

you may have sucked some folks in and had a few personality clashes , but behave , your a joker , your wishing everyone was as stupid as you would like them to be