what are our legal rights

[cowman]

a farmer does have the right to shoot a dog if its attacking live stock...but first he has to give the owner a chance to retreive the dog. if he doesnt give you warning then he can be prosecuted.

on the other hand all dogs should be controlled or never off the lead.

 

you are right but a farmer has the right to shoot a dog if it is just in a field with livestock unatended it doesnt have to be attacking livestock/

[lawrie]

if the dog is harming live stock he can, if the dog isnt most farmers will have it removed. most wont shoot dogs unless it is a desperate situation.

[Guest Freebird]

 

you are right but a farmer has the right to shoot a dog if it is just in a field with livestock unatended it doesnt have to be attacking livestock/

Why would he wan't to shoot it then? If I had a cow or sheep in my garden could I shoot it? Some funny laws I think!

 

 

[lawrie]

you could kill an animal like a sheep or a cow. it has to be done on licensed property though. and you have to be licensed to kill it.

 

i spent 2 years learning about killing animals.

[THE FIFER]

its against the law to shoot any bird unless they are game birds and you own them, or have permission, kill a crow or a sparrow you will be charged,

[lawrie]

bop are a pain for pigeon fanciers, but even if the protection on them were lifted...they would still do what comes natural to them. im sure if you shot at a bob in your kit of birds you would do more harm than good.

 

[Leroy]

 

You don't have any legal right to harm a bird of prey. That breaks the Law, nothing to do with RSPB, Governments make Laws, and they enforce those Laws through courts. Its Government we need to convince to change those Laws.

 

Having said that, no bird of prey will ever harm, far less kill one of my birds in front of me. That's why 'the forum advice' is to remain with your birds all the time they are out. 99% of their protection is up to the pigeons through being streetwise. 1% is down to you, for the odd occasion that they may be taken by surprise on your property, when you are their last line of defense, to scare the thing away before it even has a chance to get started on your bird. No Law against that.

 

good post

[Guest karl adams]

what gets me is were did the B O P  get all its protection from the so called R S P B were did they get all there backing from the so called public which a large preparation are young children as the R S P B tend to visit schools to get the votes from young children and for the rest of the public that stick bye the R S P B  they would not be able to tell a black bird from a thrush or a wren from a sparrow    when the R S P B  do there surveys on the amount of birds there are they can put any fig ors down as no one else checks them were do  the fig ors come from mostly the public that fill in a form for garden bird watch how many people do you know that sit and fill these in properly  bearing in mind they cant tell one bird to another and a percentage come from schools were the kids do it for fun i think if these figurers were checked properly we would see a different story

[Guest lenwadebob]

what gets me is were did the B O P  get all its protection from the so called R S P B were did they get all there backing from the so called public which a large preparation are young children as the R S P B tend to visit schools to get the votes from young children and for the rest of the public that stick bye the R S P B  they would not be able to tell a black bird from a thrush or a wren from a sparrow    when the R S P B  do there surveys on the amount of birds there are they can put any fig ors down as no one else checks them were do  the fig ors come from mostly the public that fill in a form for garden bird watch how many people do you know that sit and fill these in properly  bearing in mind they cant tell one bird to another and a percentage come from schools were the kids do it for fun i think if these figurers were checked properly we would see a different story

 

Very true, the vast majority of people cannot identify one British bird from another. I live in a small village, and the number of times I get stopped in the local shop by people who say "I had one of your pigeons in my garden" when in fact it wasn't a racing pigeon but a Woody or collared dove.  

I remember some years ago, my Grandmother having a yellow budgerigar (Lutino) in a cage hanging in her front window, and the number of people who thought it was a canary was unbelievable.

If all those people who feed the wild birds in their garden were to look out of their windows at midnight and see what they were feeding, they may change their minds. Such is the ignorance of most people, and these are the very ones that the RSPB prey on for their donations.

 

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

GIVE THEM NOTHING ///////

[Roland]

Rights! Well the right thing to do I guess is  to become an 'Unsung Hero!  

Just don't spout either way.