rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Christ, got the RSPB actually looking at the Facebook Action page!! Things are looking up if they are taking time to actually worry what is being displayed to all members of the public without any of their propaganda being spouted about!! This is an email I received this afternoon! Dear Mr Shepherd, Thank you for posting my reply to you on Facebook. I notice also that you posted your reply, but not my response to that? I would very much like you to do so, as it may help to convince some of your readers that the problems facing our songbirds are not Sparrowhawks, but factors further down the food chain. I'm sure we both wish to see both points of view represented in a balanced argument. Best wishes, Darren Darren Oakley-Martin Wildlife Adviser 317 members now on there and rising all the time!! :) 428 signatures on the petition and rising daily! Richard Shepherd www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 For a long, long time I thought the only way to get our message across was via Facebook. Now it certainly seems to be kicking off big time. This is going to be something the RSPB cant stop, edit, delete and will give the members of public a true reflection of what is happening to our songbirds! Richard Shepherd www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk
Guest youngboy Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 brillaint news about time. i will give the links ti club members today for the petition as its 3 way testing tonite rasbull all the best and great work!
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 Maybe I should ask him to publish every letter and email they have had from fanciers so the general public can form a fair opinion! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mealy Cock Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Richard, isn't this funny, when I repeatedly ask the RSPB to show a fair and balanced view, they will not Reply or avoid the issue. There is one good thing you have got them on the rails, ONE FOR THE FANCIER
Guest bigda Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 just keep uploading birds being killed by bop all the time in face book with a small edit there will soon be no birds left if nothing is being done about these killers
Guest mick bowler Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Richard, time to be clever with the pen, they will turn around everything to make you the bad guy. Ask him if he knows who conducted the 3 or so studies that showed racing pigeons did not form the bulk of percy's diet as in the BHW couple weeks back.
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 Exactly Bigda, its all very well fanciers telling each other,we all know the carnage and devastation that it is causing, lets tell the general public and let them decide which side of the fence they are going to stand on! Richard Shepherd www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 I agree Mick, but the one advantage we have is I decide what gets posted onto the Facebook Action page wall, and if I don't want there replies then they cant turn anything around because no is going to be seeing there responses!! We at last have some leverage than is in our hands and not theirs!! ;)
OLDYELLOW Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Mr Shepherd, Thank you for posting my reply to you on Facebook. I notice also that you posted your reply, but not my response to that? I would very much like you to do so, as it may help to convince some of your readers that the problems facing our songbirds are not Sparrowhawks, but factors further down the food chain. I'm sure we both wish to see both points of view represented in a balanced argument. Best wishes, Darren Darren Oakley-Martin Wildlife Adviser 317 members now on there and rising all the time!! :) 428 signatures on the petition and rising daily! Richard Shepherd www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk what a load of rubbish this guy spouts , theres no problem lower down the food chain plenty of slugs and aphids moths and insects grains ectra , and set-aside by farmers , if thes bops have to come into the citys and towns and where houses are its simple the stocks of small song birds have been deminished by these bops they well may call them cats to brain wash the general public , so the only way is to have a sensative cull where rare redlist birds are located and allow game keepers and pigeon fanciers to control only when there is a problem in vacinity of there lifestock / game and poultry birds, then the song birds and birds from the red list will recover . The greatest problem is injured birds rehabilitated then re-released these birds are used to humans and dont have a natural fear about them , these shouldn't be rereleased as theres enough bops as it is . The Fact is this the cuckcoo needs to have a viable song bird nest as they dont rear there own young the only way these birds will recover is if the R.S.P.B do there job and protect song birds and not just bops , they should be ashamed at there mis management of the British song birds , because every single bird on the red list they have put them on it one by one themselves by been single minded and only caring about birds of prey , i do hope they see sense or the law is changed to turn one of the biggest mistakes medling with nature , nature needs to have ballance any one drastic change in one population of animal insect , bird or decline has drastic effects , these effects are been seen now , if remains the same then there soon be no song birds , more need for pesticides and the very thing there trying to protect will be gone , i like all birds and when there in there natural habitats and co-existing in nature as supposed to be in ballance with the supply of food , feeding bops during winter carrys through weak birds which should naturaly die , the R.S.P.B have been known to be feeding these , but they spout the birds that the bops take is natural and only take the weaker ones out its nature , then why arent bops treated the same double standards rant over , The public gets what the public wants if theres enough wanting change together we all can take a part in that change one signiture makes all the difference spread the word and there might be a chance the next generation can see the very birds we grew up with and were in abundance when we were kids , the dawn chorus may well return its never to late to address the very problem but needs doing today the time is running out for so many other speices other than bops . Regards OLDYELLOW
Shortcut Lofts Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Well done and keep it going. Just a thought, could the Unions (WHU, NIPA, SHU etc..) not be approached and get them to send some sort of flyer to every member clubs in their organisation letting all members know this is going on?
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 Working on it m8, along with a load of other ideas I have! ;) Richard Shepherd www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk
pjc Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Rasbull, don't underestimate the powers of the RSPB, they will find a way to get your facebook pages removed if they so wish!
Guest lvlasked Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 what the link to the page ill join up ???
REDROCKET Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 keep up the good work i visited your site last night and went onto the utube bit and was surprised to see how many of the general public have already been putting up sparrow hawk and perigran hits the one with the sparrow hawk drowning the magpie was particularly a cruel event good luck rasbull ps ill make up a flyer and stick it in my club house that'll give you a bit more support.regards
Mealy Cock Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Well put Oldyellow, have you thought of sending your sentiments direct to the RSPB and print their reply
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 I will be posting there replies so there is 'fair' debate going on! Cant see how they can ban people from having opinions just because they are different to theirs! It is after all a free country! (Just hope the owner of facebook is not a member of the RSPB ;D ;D ;D ;D) I have stated and will keep stating that the site in no way agrees with the persecution of Birds of Prey and just wishes to raise awareness to the current situation which is decimating the small bird population! The link for the site Lvlasked is www.Rasbull-lofts.co.uk, thank you and spread the word!
lightning fast Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Rasbull, don't underestimate the powers of the RSPB, they will find a way to get your facebook pages removed if they so wish! You have to be the most negitive person on this site at least Rasbull is giving it a go
OLDYELLOW Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Well put Oldyellow, have you thought of sending your sentiments direct to the RSPB and print their reply You are welcome to copy any text i have wrote
REDROCKET Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Well done and keep it going. Just a thought, could the Unions (WHU, NIPA, SHU etc..) not be approached and get them to send some sort of flyer to every member clubs in their organisation letting all members know this is going on? a big advertisment on the back end of the transporters would be a good place to start.
pjc Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 You have to be the most negitive person on this site at least Rasbull is giving it a go I agree he is having a go and have signed the petition but am also a realist!
rasbull Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Posted March 31, 2010 You are welcome to copy any text i have wrote Regarding this, please wait until I have copied his reply to the site and then somebody can post Oldyellows comment on the page in reply to it, believe me no one will have a different opinion and also the RSPB will actually see the replies and hopefully will be keen to send me another email!! This is what you call progress and getting somewhere!
Guest mick bowler Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 I agree Mick, but the one advantage we have is I decide what gets posted onto the Facebook Action page wall, and if I don't want there replies then they cant turn anything around because no is going to be seeing there responses!! We at last have some leverage than is in our hands and not theirs!! ;) Richard, if it were me i would publish it, then comment on it that you have sent reply asking so and so, you know the questions we would all ask but they never answer, then either way you have him by the balls, and keep updating wether he replies or not.
Mealy Cock Posted March 31, 2010 Report Posted March 31, 2010 Richard have you got, Darren Oakley-Martin Wildlife Adviser e-mail address
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