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[ch pied]

is it normal for percy to kill for sport , as i watched one kill 11 lapwing's yesterday,when i was digging bait on the shore of strangford lough, time frame was jusy over 2 hour's, not 1 was carried off when i was there

[EAGLEOWL]

i find it strange but not unrealistic for a peregrine to kill for sport to brush up on technics ,as i have witnessed sparrowhawks do this ,normally a peregrine will kill the bird and eat it ,but its common for them to make a cache normally when breeding ,maybe the peregrine may have seen these has a threat to its terrortory ,

 

nothing suprises me with nature sometimes there not always a answer

 

its like a fox when it enters a chicken hut why does it kill them all

[ch pied]

thanks for the reply, iam not sure if it was one of last year's young or a tercil.

wasen't as big as some of the hen's ive seen

[EAGLEOWL]

is it normal for percy to kill for sport , as i watched one kill 11 lapwing's yesterday,when i was digging bait on the shore of strangford lough, time frame was jusy over 2 hour's, not 1 was carried off when i was there

 

 

maybe you should have collected the lapwings ,taken pictures sent them to your local newspaper has theres been a drive over the last few  years to help the dwindling lapwing numbers also send them to the rspb and ask them for a answer

 

[Guest]

Wildlife programmes would have you believe that there is a trade-off for the predator in energy it loses during the hunt -vs- energy it gains from eating the kill.

 

I do not know what behaviour was witnessed over the lough, but I think it pretty strange to kill 11 items of prey and leave them to be carried off by other predators? Doesn't exactly sit with the Bill Oddie theory either, all that energy gone and sod-all to show for it.   Sounds just like the fox in a hen run, but I think that behaviour is pure bloodlust  / feeding frenzy.

[ch pied]

it was hitting and taking to ground and killing ,standing over for a few minutes

or so then up again looking for another victim, the third one it never evan went to ground with it , that was a mid-air kill

[DOVEScot]

Wildlife programmes would have you believe that there is a trade-off for the predator in energy it loses during the hunt -vs- energy it gains from eating the kill.

 

I do not know what behaviour was witnessed over the lough, but I think it pretty strange to kill 11 items of prey and leave them to be carried off by other predators? Doesn't exactly sit with the Bill Oddie theory either, all that energy gone and sod-all to show for it.   Sounds just like the fox in a hen run, but I think that behaviour is pure bloodlust  / feeding frenzy.

 

I was always of the belief that they only flew to feed, and that falconers weighed the birds to see if they would fly, if they were too heavy they would just sit about and only flew within a certain wieght range

[brianm]

 

I was always of the belief that they only flew to feed, and that falconers weighed the birds to see if they would fly, if they were too heavy they would just sit about and only flew within a certain wieght range

 

your bang on duncan, if any of my birds were an oz over they wernt intrested , very intresting behavour , ive never heard of a BOP making multipal kills in the wild, it happens in falconry as we trade the kill for a small scrap of food thus keeping the bird hungry to hunt again

[DOVEScot]

 

your bang on duncan, if any of my birds were an oz over they wernt intrested , very intresting behavour , ive never heard of a BOP making multipal kills in the wild, it happens in falconry as we trade the kill for a small scrap of food thus keeping the bird hungry to hunt again

 

I could see a lot of birds being a threat to a peregrine's nest and it protecting it's territory, but not lapwings :-/

[Fair Play]

Lapwings still here at this time of the year just proves that the weather is a shambles We used to go on the moors as kids in Spring to look for them and listen for  the distinctive "Pee wee" They used to buzz you if you got too close to the nest If 11 birds were killed there will be a shortage of Lapwings in your area next year but the Bill "Dodderies" of this world see no wrong, just look at the shortage of song birds I saw a Hawk chase a thrush down the street lucky for the thrush it was grey dusk and managed to give it the slip.

[ch pied]

 

your bang on duncan, if any of my birds were an oz over they wernt intrested , very intresting behavour , ive never heard of a BOP making multipal kills in the wild, it happens in falconry as we trade the kill for a small scrap of food thus keeping the bird hungry to hunt again

.....is it possible that this bird , may have been lost by someone and gone feral ?

.

 

[brianm]

never say never mate but id have thought the same rules would apply the bird would kill and feed and if still hungry kill and  feed again until fed up . it would then sit up somewhere till its crop emptied and it the kill digested,

[jimmy white]

is it normal for percy to kill for sport , as i watched one kill 11 lapwing's yesterday,when i was digging bait on the shore of strangford lough, time frame was jusy over 2 hour's, not 1 was carried off when i was there

 

just athought cheq pied ,, wonder if it was killing these like that,, as they might have been too close to percies nesting or roosting place ??   but, as i say , only a thought

[jimmy white]

.....is it possible that this bird , may have been lost by someone and gone feral ?

.

 

even this is quite possible, after going hungry for a while then getting the hang of being wild,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im on that nature forum all about birds , ill post this question for you ,, and just out of curiosity see what they say

[jimmy white]

just popped it on cheq pd   hopefully be on in a day or two as the posts are checked b4 putting them up,,now if i can get this handfull right :)

   http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/wildlife/pages/iolo_birdwatching_tips.shtml

[Bilco]

I witnessed exactly the same behaviour on the west coast of Portugal, when I went there to live in late 1986.  The predator would wait on at high altitude and then as the race birds (Pigeons) came along the coast from liberation at Sagres, it would dive, strike and let the bird fall into the sea or on to the sand. I never saw it pick up a single body.  I did meet a shepherd lad with a .22 rifle who happily killed hawks, because he hated their manners and he loved Pombos (Pigeons). I paid him 100 Escudos (Then about 40p) for every dead predator he brought me over a two year period. I'd cut their feet off so he didn't bring the same one twice.  He kept those cliffs as clean as a whistle from Villa Bispo to Zambujeiras (Alentaijo).

[Fair Play]

Pity you couldn't try that out here  

[DOVEScot]

Pity you couldn't try that out here  

 

You could, but the wee tykes you paid to shoot the hawks would shoot the pigeons too and blackmail you into the bargain, then pop all yer windows just for the fun it. You just cannae get the staff these days :D :D

[Taylorsloft]

eagle owl kills cat starts to eat it on electricity pylon then gets electrocuted and blacks out 650 homes near aberdeen .anyway one cat less

[Merlin]

 

Is there any chance Chg Pied that someone was working this Sky Pirate on that day,as its definitely appears to be out of character for a wild bird

 

Fanciers in this area were wiped out by Percy when flying their kits of rollers, A pair of Eagle Owls took up residency in area,none or very little problems since from Percy for the last eighteen months,I am flying rollers again for this period and have not had any trouble,long may it continue

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Is there any chance Chg Pied that someone was working this Sky Pirate on that day,as its definitely appears to be out of character for a wild bird

 

Fanciers in this area were wiped out by Percy when flying their kits of rollers, A pair of Eagle Owls took up residency in area,none or very little problems since from Percy for the last eighteen months,I am flying rollers again for this period and have not had any trouble,long may it continue

 

well I wish some would take up residency here , great they are helping the problem in your area, where are you exactly so we can see where the owls are moving around to.?

[ch pied]

Is there any chance Chg Pied that someone was working this Sky Pirate on that day,as its definitely appears to be out of character for a wild bird

 

Fanciers in this area were wiped out by Percy when flying their kits of rollers, A pair of Eagle Owls took up residency in area,none or very little problems since from Percy for the last eighteen months,I am flying rollers again for this period and have not had any trouble,long may it continue

that i couden't say , never noticed anyone , or percy being called . i was at island hill , just outside comber ,