PIGEON_MAN Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 No, rightly or wrongly that would be classed as sheer luck. I've picked a bird out of more than 70 not knowing anything about it and it then went on to breed winners for me, I used the look, shape and feel of the bird and nothing to do with the eye, there's more evidence that this is a better way to select a bird but that's just my opinion and many others. All down to opinion not evidence. Well I must be a very lucky person them as 99% of my stock birds have bred winners and the only thing I go on is the eye,it works for me and thats all i,m worried about.
JB STAINFORTH Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 dont want to get into a argument about the value of eye sign but afriend of mine a few years ago was sent to hospital by his doctor to see a specialist that specialist was a iridologist who pin pointed where my friends problem was so the surgon could operate the human eye can depict many things such as inteligence why not in our birds is this what the eye sign man sees of course many more things have to be in place to make a champion but they may be telling us to put two eys of inteligence together and you have half a chance they would own up not to know everything but do we know enough to completley knock thier theories
edwards Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 theres a lot of fanciers who only reckon they know what there looking for in eye sign,thats why so many people go wrong with it,i use it always have,i started looking at it at 13 yrs old,the old eye sign books were a load of nonsence and crap,ive picked top breeders out in a few lofts and also picked birds out that will only breed rubbish,but many other factors come into it aswell,being a good stock man helps a lot and a good judge of pigeons,i use it always will,it works for me and ime happy with it,everybody has the rights to decide themselves thats what makes keeping pigeons interesting,we shudnt pull people down who believe in it and also the same with people who dont believe in it,everyone to there own.My best ever breeders had eyes like diamonds,never failed breeding winners.keep smiling lads,all the best. leswould you ever check the back wing for the the likes of drag and stuff like that?
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 there is a bloke called Brian may, who is a expert on pigeons eyes, and the eyes of psychopathic killers, and i think ??) jargre he would have no problem grading yours he is from Bolton ;D ;D look him up :X > You on about the Brian May who worked in Rampton Hospital? All he'd tell from my eyes pal is that I wait patiently for what goes around to come around. 8) He's from Rotherham by the way. JB Stainforth, the theory of iridology has been dismissed by scientists as worthless.
Guest bigda Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 You on about the Brian May who worked in Rampton Hospital? All he'd tell from my eyes pal is that I wait patiently for what goes around to come around. 8) He's from Rotherham by the way. JB Stainforth, the theory of iridology has been dismissed by scientists as worthless. just thinking you would make a good case for him, he once told the institute, to not release a guy as he said he would kill again and he did, if i where you jargre i would make a appointment at the earliest possible time just to put your mind at rest and stop you having those bad thoughts ;D :X that you have ??) ;D
Merlin Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 JarGre What scientists,there far worse than pigeon fanciers,its nigh on impossible to get two to agree on anything,there are literally hundreds ofDoctors and Opticians,who can and do pick up on illnesses which show sympthoms in the eyes first
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 JarGre What scientists,there far worse than pigeon fanciers,its nigh on impossible to get two to agree on anything,there are literally hundreds ofDoctors and Opticians,who can and do pick up on illnesses which show sympthoms in the eyes first i agree the eye can tell alot about a birds health!! but how gud a racer or breeder it is? na
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 just thinking you would make a good case for him, he once told the institute, to not release a guy as he said he would kill again and he did, if i where you jargre i would make a appointment at the earliest possible time just to put your mind at rest and stop you having those bad thoughts ;D :X that you have ??) ;D Your not me pal and never will be, I'm a lot bigger and better looking you and I NEVER make the same mistake twice. Merlin, we wouldn't be where we are today without scientists, I do get what your saying but the American Medical Association saying its a load of tosh is good enough for me. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
Guest slugmonkey Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I am not convinced by the whole eye thing. there was a top American eye man that visited a very good loft in South Africa when i was growing up. i am not going to name any names here as the man has since passed away. he went through the entire loft and his conclusion was that only three birds were worth keeping! Strange thing was that one of the three that were worth keeping was a stray, and the other two were bought in at a yb sale! All of the lads combine and fed winners and their parents were condemed as rubbish and not worth keeping. it is when i heard this that i decided to let the basket decide what is worth keeping and what isnt. Mhy does it always have to be an American ???
just ask me Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 this has gone so far off point its unreal please keep to the topic
Dodgy Trapper Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Is Bill Carney still alive.Good old pigeon man Is there a website with photos of the different coloured eyesign a pigeon can have?
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Is Bill Carney still alive.Good old pigeon man Is there a website with photos of the different coloured eyesign a pigeon can have? Try this it has many links on it http://www.geocities.com/wt123456/index.html
The Navigator Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I used to believe it was a load of nonsence. I don't now!!
Hogni Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I can not believe that in the year 2009 this is still being talked about, i would have thought pigeon people would be grown out of this by now.The best advice i have ever given young pigeon fanciers is not to pay any attention to this THEORY
Guest numpty01 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I can not believe that in the year 2009 this is still being talked about, i would have thought pigeon people would be grown out of this by now.The best advice i have ever given young pigeon fanciers is not to pay any attention to this THEORY some of us fanciers use all diffrent thoreys but who is to say any are right ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I have been interested in it for years, but don't profess to be an expert in the field. But I have conducted a few experiments with peoples pigeons, where I have asked them to hold their pigeons so I am not influenced by any other factors of the bird, and I have looked at the eye and picked out their good breeders and racers more often than not.
fred smyth Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 any one like to coment on this eye den ill tell what it is
Guest HighSpeedLofts Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 any one like to coment on this eye den ill tell what it is its a middle distance breeding eye
Guest numpty01 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D i think if looked at through a glass there would be loverly little silver threads running from centre out the craters are evident from the pic but would be far prominant this bird if not won nat has i think won well and big ;)
edwards Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 its a middle distance breeding eye what is it about the eye yuo see mate
Guest HighSpeedLofts Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 i see the eye the iris is neither pillar box red or liver so il go for middle distance lol the circle of adaption with the smokey composision and lack of racing sign
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