pigeon fancier or pigeon??

[jimmy white]

what percentage would fanciers put in order,,,, to win races

 

fancier,,,,pigeon

[just ask me]

i think u need both to be honest i tried a few famillies with some success  but there no doubt u need to have the right tools great question   im happy with what i have now but allways looking to improve  

 

[jimmy white]

its the age old question my answer would be [like a politician] ;D

 

without the fancier the best cannot be gotten out the pigeon

 

without the pigeon, you would have less chance of winning

 

but a good fancier can make a  mediocre pigeon  win,, a bad fancier can ruin a good bird      50-50 ;D

[Guest stb-]

pigeon , ive seen some pigeons win in spite of the numptys that had em  ;D ;D

[fletch]

depends on distance would say 70-30 in favour of fancier in sprint races but in distance possibly reversed to the pigeon being 70%

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Depends the distance you race... the further you go the more percentage the doo...

 

Alot of average doos can win short races due to excellent management.. so then it would be higher % the fancier..

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

tottally agree that it is what distance you fly at

[jimmy white]

Depends the distance you race... the further you go the more percentage the doo...

 

Alot of average doos can win short races due to excellent management.. so then it would be higher % the fancier..

 

i would agree that a bigger the  percentage,, for the distance,, but still believe  management could make or break a good pigeon,,

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

i would agree that a bigger the  percentage,, for the distance,, but still believe  management could make or break a good pigeon,,

 

I think it would vary between every individual doo.. some doos dont need any help, some need plenty.. down to knowing your doos

[Guest frank dooman]

this is a chiken or egg one is it not?

[just ask me]

this is a chiken or egg one is it not?

 

a bit of both  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

serious though i think its both the bird and the fanicer  

[jimmy white]

 

I think it would vary between every individual doo.. some doos dont need any help, some need plenty.. down to knowing your doos

 

hammer on the nail ;D my thoughts anyway ;D

[jimmy white]

this is a chiken or egg one is it not?

 

;D ;D ;D ;D  thats why i mentioned a politicians answer,,  ;D ;D ;D   kinda hard to really answer ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

 

;D ;D ;D ;D  thats why i mentioned a politicians answer,,  ;D ;D ;D   kinda hard to really answer ;D

 

yes jimmy this ques has alot more ends than this it realy cant be ans. as simple as that

[jimmy white]

;Dyes  i quite agree,, but just wondered folks opinions

[Guest karl adams]

its the age old question my answer would be [like a politician] ;D

 

without the fancier the best cannot be gotten out the pigeon

 

without the pigeon, you would have less chance of winning

 

but a good fancier can make a  mediocre pigeon  win,, a bad fancier can ruin a good bird      50-50 ;D

 

that's my thought to   :)

[jimmy white]

the bit i was wondering about was you often see the same fanciers winning out of turn over many, many years,,,  they must either have a way with pigeons, or really good stockmen,, i would suspect both

[VMS]

Firstly i would say Location then it would be 50/50 on both other counts.

[Guest stb-]

Firstly i would say Location then it would be 50/50 on both other counts.

 

IS THAT THE 50/50 RACE MIX YOU MEAN VINCE ;D ;D

[VMS]

 

IS THAT THE 50/50 RACE MIX YOU MEAN VINCE ;D ;D

 

You know exactly what i mean. ;)

[Guest stb-]

 

You know exactly what i mean. ;)

  

 

 

[Guest karl adams]

im new to the sport  (2 years ) i have paid good money for what was good pigeons but i think it was me that let the birds down lack of knowledge

i think after some years of making mistakes i will get there in the end and become a good pigeon flier but i think experience is what you need as there  is so much to learn and so many ways to do things i am happy with the birds i have got now as i have not won much with them but i have let others have birds off me and they have done well with them this has proven to me that the birds i have are capable of winning races but its me that is lacking  experience

 

 

and i think that me racing birds that i payed for and was at the bottom of the sheet most weeks made the person that i got them off look bad and that was my fault    it was and still his lack of experience  

[Guest stb-]

JUST KEEP AT IT M8  IM SURE YOULL GET IT RIGHT EVENTUALLY AND IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT BIRDS THEY WILL PAY YOU BACK. ;)

[Guest CS]

70% pigeon / 30% fancier, pigeons do the work and basket will tell  you

[Guest spin cycle]

pigeon , ive seen some pigeons win in spite of the numptys that had em  ;D ;D

 

i would have said fancier more than pigeon....but this post is true as i often wonder how i win the odd race ...the things i do. is it better to spend your 'carreer' looking for that 'excellent' pigeon or honing your skills to get the very best out of average ones??