The reason Why?....

[john nico]

ay roland hoe do you now that yb range that far i carnt see that myself

[Roland]

Me, the shorter starting in training means the more losses. Once finished ranging 25 - 30 or more in any direction. Two or three more in different directs, a 60 miler and they can more than hold their own at any distance. I usually start them of - when I can be bother to race youngster - at 112 South and 125 miles North first race. Have no qualms whatsoever in switching roads at any time, or distance.

Gary Edmunds, ad a few others only ever trained ANY bird any Age 20 miles. Gary said '20  miles and they can go any race... once raced at any distance that can go any where. Best fancier I've every know barr none. Likewise Brian Hawkes, and few good ole timers just went 20 miles with y/b's and every day 20 miles when they could afford it.

Gosh, what are we here? Don't een understand, nor know how the home, so all is for own benefits, thoughts!

And Timbarr, pigeon don't ever fly in a straight line of course, Wind one way they do an arc, like a bow from one point to another. Wind other side, then the arc is the other side. they also constantley zig - zag. Yes we see them swoop over and head as in a straight line.... But they are in a curve regardless how long the curve.

[john nico]

i lost 8 last year no the wires 3 miles from the loft 5 ov them actually dropped into a flyers garden sliced in half

[NW USA]

Loft fly them, call them in with a pinch of food then basket them for the training. They will come much better for you. If you feed twice a day like I do, go a little lighter on the evening meal.

[Roland]

Loft fly them, call them in with a pinch of food then basket them for the training. They will come much better for you. If you feed twice a day like I do, go a little lighter on the evening meal.

 

Now that I do agree with.

[Guest Owen]

If your birds have had about three or four tosses from say 10 miles they should not circle at all. Make sure you are not over feeding and treat for canker. Canker will have a very bad affect on the birds ability to train properly. They should leave the basket and fly in the direction of home gradually gaining hieght as they go. It's OK if they dog leg, because the wind and other things can affect that sort of thing. Circles, no way. The idea that they are having a look around is just not right. After they get used to the basket, it's straight home and no messing about. If others want to keep tourists, let them, I think it is better to have racers.

[Roland]

If you had a glass top on the crate, they'll never cicle, just head straight off. likewise if they can see out the top to a good degree. Now on race das they won't have that :-/

Mostly when in form and confident the youngster will head of in the opposite direction. Likewise, was always told it was every time, they head back to the liberation point of the basket... have seen this of course, but sceptical as to every time.