Advice please - what to do with my YB?

[Albear]

As some will know I lost my licence in June because of medical reasons , thankfully I have just got it back. So my YB have had no training. I have also been waiting to move my birds to a new loft about 400yds from the current one. Because of this I gave my first round away and paired very late, my second round weaning at mid July, the proposed date to move into the new loft. Unfortunately the farmer’s plans whose land I have my loft on have not worked out, (he has been very kind to me). Today he has told me it will be 4 to 8 weeks before I could put a new loft up.

Now to my YB I have about 33 from the second round that have been out of the loft half a dozen times but not for ¾ weeks  and a further 33 l/b about 7/8 weeks old that have not been out of the loft but in the trap.

The oldest ones if possible I would like to get going I can train this month if that’s a good idea, I would like to get some of the l/b  going too, if of course I hold them . I’m at a loss as to the best way to do this as time for decent weather is limited and of course they are moulting.

Can anyone suggest a plan for getting them trained to 20 mile within the next 3 or 4 weeks weather permitting? Or am I wasting my time and better of offering them cheap to help finance next years racing?  Or wait until next year and train them once mated? Any advice, views , suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanks

 

[Guest]

As some will know I lost my licence in June because of medical reasons , thankfully I have just got it back. So my YB have had no training. I have also been waiting to move my birds to a new loft about 400yds from the current one. Because of this I gave my first round away and paired very late, my second round weaning at mid July, the proposed date to move into the new loft. Unfortunately the farmer’s plans whose land I have my loft on have not worked out, (he has been very kind to me). Today he has told me it will be 4 to 8 weeks before I could put a new loft up.

Now to my YB I have about 33 from the second round that have been out of the loft half a dozen times but not for ¾ weeks  and a further 33 l/b about 7/8 weeks old that have not been out of the loft but in the trap.

The oldest ones if possible I would like to get going I can train this month if that’s a good idea, I would like to get some of the l/b  going too, if of course I hold them . I’m at a loss as to the best way to do this as time for decent weather is limited and of course they are moulting.

Can anyone suggest a plan for getting them trained to 20 mile within the next 3 or 4 weeks weather permitting? Or am I wasting my time and better of offering them cheap to help finance next years racing?  Or wait until next year and train them once mated? Any advice, views , suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanks

 

Write this year off mate,relize this will be a sore one but you may be flogging a dead horse. :(.Just send the cream up here.

[chickadee]

We missed racing this year due to personal circumstances and decided to keep them for yearling racing next year, we have been told by quite a few fanciers to still get them in a basket and at least give them some training tosses as this is good programming for them and it will be good for them.  :-/

[pigeonscout]

They will need trained in the year of birth, young birds bred very late will be on the darkness system because the days will be short. when fanciers breed at Xmas time and put the young on the dark the young birds are about 7 months old going to the first race. Some fanciers are now breeding a late round 7 months before the first old bird race Sep /Oct and the late breds are going to the first old birds race having gone through the body molt but still have full wing. If trained well they are every bit as fast as the old birds. PS stop them after 5 or 6 races.

[Guest wattle]

i never race young birds or train them, i wait till the are yearlings and then train them never had any problems.  

[Guest JPH]

get them flying well for a week and then take them 20mls for first do this 5 /6 times

 

what is there should be sound ;)

[Novice]

I have a friend from from Southern England who said one of his best seasons was when he trained his birds in winter after they have completed the moult.

There are mild days when this can be done in winter and the bonus is that BOP are less active than in summer.

It is not something I would choose to do but your circumstances are exceptional.

[Guest chrisss]

this is a very good thread please keep it going as i have a similar problem, i have at 25 birds that have not been out yet, now i know that some of them are now way too old [i had no choice but to keep them in, but they have been a flight to have a good look around]i expect to lose at least half of them, but as the year is running out now,will it be worth doing anything with them at all this year or starting of with them fresh with them next year?

[Albear]

Thank you all for your replies and advice. They've been going out since Monday lost a few, probably percy. Hope to get them trained end of next week or the week after will probably loose quite a lot but whatelse do I do, suppose I could put up for auction with cheap start but then I'm struggling for racing OB next year. Anyway the good news is the farmer has told me I can now move. So I need to get a loft I'm looking for 40', I've had a quote and it'll mean taking out a mortgage!! (loan which I may have to do!!). If anyone knows of such a loft for sale from someone gving up I'd e pleased to know, or two small lofts, there are some in todays BHW but they are a bit far because most need to be taken down. If the vendor would take them down that would help!! But if it was in the SW then it may be worth while. The other thing that always worries me is that they never go up the way they come down!!

So if anyone is aware of a 40' anywhere then please let me know, or two smaller in the SW

Thanks

Alan

[Guest]

Thank you all for your replies and advice. They've been going out since Monday lost a few, probably percy. Hope to get them trained end of next week or the week after will probably loose quite a lot but whatelse do I do, suppose I could put up for auction with cheap start but then I'm struggling for racing OB next year. Anyway the good news is the farmer has told me I can now move. So I need to get a loft I'm looking for 40', I've had a quote and it'll mean taking out a mortgage!! (loan which I may have to do!!). If anyone knows of such a loft for sale from someone gving up I'd e pleased to know, or two small lofts, there are some in todays BHW but they are a bit far because most need to be taken down. If the vendor would take them down that would help!! But if it was in the SW then it may be worth while. The other thing that always worries me is that they never go up the way they come down!!

So if anyone is aware of a 40' anywhere then please let me know, or two smaller in the SW

Thanks

Alan

good luck Alan , if you were to purchase the one up by me (in advert) i would offer myself to help uou take it down , all the best .            andy.

 

 

[Albear]

good luck Alan , if you were to purchase the one up by me (in advert) i would offer myself to help uou take it down , all the best .            andy.

 

 

Thanks Andy very kind of you.

[jack]

i never race young birds or train them, i wait till the are yearlings and then train them never had any problems.  

 

dont me asking but do you lose many  and were do you finish in your club