1 loft races allowed in general races. yes/no

[gangster]

 

Trouble os they usually succeed probably because they have something to hide.  :-/

 

well its a shame id like 2 see one go without it moving away from its original post....

[Guest]

Allen Gibb's post hits it on the head for me, spot on imo

[Guest asha]

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I am well aware of who Numpty 666 is from the IP checks we can do on site.

 

I am going to work shortly but this member has until i return tonight to send me a PM explaining the need to break the site rules by setting up a second account in a name that could suggest he is another member.

 

If i dont have the PM i will simply place an IP ban on the account.

 

Sorry to all if it sounds harsh however we are trying to make the site a better place and this sort of deceit wont be tolerated anymore.

 

 

      Get a life sad man,and by the way,just because you can delete posts ,try to be a gentelman and play fair,you sicken me deleting honest and truthful posts,just because they make you look bad,your fooling nobody sunshine,truth hurts ,so listen to it,lets see you delete this.

[Guest spin cycle]

being a genuine 'numpty' i'm a bit confused. is it right to say that all the rpra yearlings have been transferred into david bill's name, he has joined a club and now races them with that club/fed with presumably the 1 loft location as his loft. where are the birds marked...if not with the club then are club officials present ? IMO it sounds a bit 'sharp'...but probably ok rules wise.

[hepste]

If you want to ask me anything you know where i live  

 

The debate is on the open forum, and available to be read by all members. Everyone on here deserves the right to read/hear any responses.  A simple yes or no will do, and will hopefully satisfy any doubters.

 

[Chris Little]

In 2000 we entered our first one loft type race, it was run by Nigel Cowood. At that time One Loft racing was something new.

 

It was a great experience, one difference was we were sent MNFC rings which were obviously in Nigel's name. The main race was the first of the two MNFC young bird nationals then the second one from Picauville was optional which followed up by another Picauville the week after with the Nothern Claasic.

 

This whole set up was limited to about 100 - 150 birds and money wasn't the main focus unlike todays events, it was just enjoyment following your birds progress, our entry was duly returned following a successful campaign and ended up in the breeding shed.

 

The birds were raced / trained in his club / federation then with MNFC & Northern Classic, there was no politics, hassle, bickering etc then so whats changed now........ money !!!

[hepste]

being a genuine 'numpty' i'm a bit confused. is it right to say that all the rpra yearlings have been transferred into david bill's name, he has joined a club and now races them with that club/fed with presumably the 1 loft location as his loft. where are the birds marked...if not with the club then are club officials present ? IMO it sounds a bit 'sharp'...but probably ok rules wise.

 

 

I think you've summed it up pretty well from what I gather.  I think that the rings are all registered to him, and importantly, he assumes ownership of the birds themselves as his personal property.  I assume the original owners have agreed to relinquish ownership, perhaps under an agreement that they will then resume ownership at some future date?  Maybe Jeremy Davies can confirm, if he hasn't got too bored answering all the queries coming his way lately.  I'm sure he has a life to lead away from his responsibilities toward one loft pigeons.  It must be a busy time of the year for him regardless of all these other issues.

 

[hepste]

being a genuine 'numpty' i'm a bit confused. is it right to say that all the rpra yearlings have been transferred into david bill's name, he has joined a club and now races them with that club/fed with presumably the 1 loft location as his loft. where are the birds marked...if not with the club then are club officials present ? IMO it sounds a bit 'sharp'...but probably ok rules wise.

 

 

I think you've summed it up pretty well from what I gather.  I think that the rings are all registered to him, and importantly, he assumes ownership of the birds themselves as his personal property.  I assume the original owners have agreed to relinquish ownership, perhaps under an agreement that they will then resume ownership at some future date?  Maybe Jeremy Davies can confirm, if he hasn't got too bored answering all the queries coming his way lately.  I'm sure he has a life to lead away from his responsibilities toward one loft pigeons.  It must be a busy time of the year for him regardless of all these other issues.

 

[Guest numpty01]

 

 

I think you've summed it up pretty well from what I gather.  I think that the rings are all registered to him, and importantly, he assumes ownership of the birds themselves as his personal property.  I assume the original owners have agreed to relinquish ownership, perhaps under an agreement that they will then resume ownership at some future date?  Maybe Jeremy Davies can confirm, if he hasn't got too bored answering all the queries coming his way lately.  I'm sure he has a life to lead away from his responsibilities toward one loft pigeons.  It must be a busy time of the year for him regardless of all these other issues.

naw he spends his tinme in garden drinking tea ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[Jeremy]

And Coffee Chris    ;D ;D ;D

Hepste yes you have most of it right. Birds go to auction at the end then tranfered to the buyer. The Young bird Entrants have the option to Enter the Yearling race if they so wish or if not go to the young bird auction. David Bills has joined Malvern S.R.F.C and all is above board. I dont mind answering if there are no insults towards me. When i am not drinking tea of course  

[Guest spin cycle]

so...if the birds are in david bill's name...then his name will appear on the result...not the original entrant

[Jeremy]

Spin Cycle

That is correct there is a one loft result with syndicate names and also a result in club fed and National under david bills as there is no other way at the moment no different from a Pro employing a loft manager. All birds are marked at the club , fed National under rpra rules.

[blaz]

i should expect that everyone knows that the birds he is racing belong to the one loft . that david is only the manager. yes i know birds are in his name but in name only. could you imagine him saying to a mate hear is a pair of birds for your self as i have a 120 in my name.not on your Nelly .some of you lot out their need to give credit where credit is due. as for you spin cycle i alredy know your are what i call the salt of the earth and a sensible person

[blaz]

any way on a lighter note i have birds going to eastbourne this week i hope that thy dont stop off at the one loft to say hello to their younger siblings  ;D ??) ;D ??)

[hepste]

I dont mind answering if there are no insults towards me. When i am not drinking tea of course  

 

Great news Jeremy.  In my most humble and non insulting tone possible, can I ask you (once again)to confirm for everyone on here that you have nothing whatsoever to do with any of the postings made in the name of Numpty 666, who has been declared a duplicate user.  I do think it is important that everyone on this forum can see that the integrity of the person responsible for the RPRA one loft race pigeons is absolute, and without question.   Any failure to do so on the forum, may cause some uncertainty that could otherwise be avoided.

 

 

[hepste]

I dont mind answering if there are no insults towards me. When i am not drinking tea of course  

 

Great news Jeremy.  In my most humble and non insulting tone possible, can I ask you (once again)to confirm for everyone on here that you have nothing whatsoever to do with any of the postings made in the name of Numpty 666, who has been declared a duplicate user.  I do think it is important that everyone on this forum can see that the integrity of the person responsible for the RPRA one loft race pigeons is absolute, and without question.   Any failure to do so on the forum, may cause some uncertainty that could otherwise be avoided.

 

 

[bombersbullets]

bring um on no problems have faith in your birds ur enter a one loft race lol 8)

[Jeremy]

Yes it was from same ip add but not me it was my partner we have 5 pc did not know we could not use same ip until Richard said so we asked to it be removed before fifer i noticed you can confirm with richard if you want.

Hepste i would also like to know your real name to have integrity of your posts   You can pm me if you want  

[Guest puresoontjen]

bring um on no problems have faith in your birds ur enter a one loft race lol 8)

 

thats what ive been saying all along but some on here do disagree i do fly with the one loft in our club the ones that don't fly with the drag birds in (my opinion) i think there frightend of the 1 lofts there scared of the so called drag and thay no there birds isn't up to it this is why vanlink as put the post up and done a poll run, and he didn't like it when his mate came no were now he blams the1 loft for this ho yes and the RPRA  and david bills its very obvious theres not alot that have the goods so thay have to keep there birds back in there loft instead of leting them go to the races when the 1 lofts on and geting there birds up to the 1 loft STANDARDS thay seam to shy off the idea. and thats all i got to say :-/

[Guest puresoontjen]

Yes it was from same ip add but not me it was my partner we have 5 pc did not know we could not use same ip until Richard said so we asked to it be removed before fifer i noticed you can confirm with richard if you want.

Hepste i would also like to know your real name to have integrity of your posts   You can pm me if you want  

 

at least you was man enough to own up to it not like some we all know

[Jeremy]

I had a good Chat with Van Link Face to Face like we should i am sure he will tell everyone himself my views on this matter.

[Guest chrisss]

and yet the poll still is against the idea :-/ 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Bilco]

The technical "ownership" of the birds, i.e. whose name they race under, is irrelevant, it is of no consequence.  What a wonderful (and strange in part) collection of opinions, and what a variation of 'character' it reveals of the contributors.   For my part Yes, I like 1LR's and contribute about five or six entrants per annum.  It gives me an interest outside my own area and if there is nothing doing here, perhaps there might be better luck over there.  At my age I have seen most of it, and experienced the 'pros and cons'.    In my opinion, and it is only my opinion, I think one loft races are an excellent idea.  The crap handlers are soon weeded out, the 'smart arses' who are little better than crooks soon expose themselves, and the good stock men  and handlers come up shining better than ever, irrespective of the hazards they experience or successes they achieve.    If your bottom lip has a tendancy to tremble, one loft races are not for you.    If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.  As to whether it is "fair" to have a One Loft race incorporated into a Classic, Combine or Fed race, why not?  They pay their money don't they?    Like Channel Islanders competing in BBC races, if the wind is in the W/SW and strong, they take little or no no part in the result, but they have paid the fees all the same, nobody moans then do they?  For me it is simply whether participants have grown up or not, are they boys or men?

[Guest numpty01]

evening bilco

[Guest]

The technical "ownership" of the birds, i.e. whose name they race under, is irrelevant, it is of no consequence.  What a wonderful (and strange in part) collection of opinions, and what a variation of 'character' it reveals of the contributors.   For my part Yes, I like 1LR's and contribute about five or six entrants per annum.  It gives me an interest outside my own area and if there is nothing doing here, perhaps there might be better luck over there.  At my age I have seen most of it, and experienced the 'pros and cons'.    In my opinion, and it is only my opinion, I think one loft races are an excellent idea.  The crap handlers are soon weeded out, the 'smart arses' who are little better than crooks soon expose themselves, and the good stock men  and handlers come up shining better than ever, irrespective of the hazards they experience or successes they achieve.    If your bottom lip has a tendancy to tremble, one loft races are not for you.    If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.  As to whether it is "fair" to have a One Loft race incorporated into a Classic, Combine or Fed race, why not?  They pay their money don't they?    Like Channel Islanders competing in BBC races, if the wind is in the W/SW and strong, they take little or no no part in the result, but they have paid the fees all the same, nobody moans then do they?  For me it is simply whether participants have grown up or not, are they boys or men?

 

Thanks for adding another one to the 'strange collection'.