Racing North road and South road

[jimmy white]

i think the birds racing north rd and birds racing south rd would be racing at differant heights ie opposite winds, but theres a lot more to it than that as theres feds racing e to w and vica versa, would it not be possible to take turns ,ie week about, just a thought on these difficult times.[,  things may even change yet, hope not]

[mealybar]

I've never seen birds turn when flocks come nearabouts. As jimmy says north are at a different height to south, and I dont think a bird would do a 180 turn to break one flock to join another.

 

Where I think clashing will occur is when flocks are going more or less the same way, just different distances or variations at the end of the route.

 

Clashing at the liberation site I think is a seperate issue, as these birds havent yet got their bearings and are looking to tag on to something to get them going. One thing for sure 10 or 15 mins between libs aint enough :-/

[THE FIFER]

just look at the map above, and that does not have the scottish racing on it or the north roaders, think about it, fill in scotland with birds flying from south to north and the north roaders coming south, u wont see nothing for lines,

[frank-123]

bruno

i watched the liberation from ripon i think 2002 of lanrkshire federation

so after the lib i sat down to have my lbreakfast some 20 mins later a batch of 300-400 birds returned then carried on flying around ripon race course for 50 mins

i phoned my mate to let him know what had happend

they had the winners doing a great time then big gaps with plenty missing that night

weather that day at the race point great morning sunshine no wind & could see for miles

[frank-123]

why does say north roaders not just fly the south route

no east to west or west to east allowed

only south routes allowed

corridors made east central and west

west of scotland ,cumbria,liverpool,wales devon must fly the west corridor

southhampton, birmingham yorkshire manchester must fly cental route

london,hull,newcastle east coast of scotland fly east route

 

i think its a bit of commonsense but a lot of hard work to get the corridors correct

and people will say we have always flown this route

change is needed to help our birds

what do you think?

[THE FIFER]

HOW WILL ORGANISATIONS DOWN SOUTH GET DISTANCE FLYING SOUTH ROAD??? ITS NOT JUST A CASE OF FANCIERS DOWN SOUTH FLYING FROM THE NORTH AND ONES FROM UP NORTH FLYING FROM THE SOUTH, ITS THE LOTS AND LOTS OF FANCIERS FROM INBETWEEN, FLYING FROM THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH,

[frank-123]

does the l/secc not fly south route from france?

what iam trying to say is every pigeon in the uk should be on south route

[Guest slugmonkey]

You guys DEFINATLY have a lot of traffic on race day, we do run into the same situation although not as large of numbers we don't have the participitation you fellows do though it seems to me that you should have somebody in your governing body try to group releases together by where they are going so that you send birds from same geographical areas to same release points and and eliminate turning one flock into another .

[THE FIFER]

does the l/secc not fly south route from france?

what iam trying to say is every pigeon in the uk should be on south route

 

HOW CAN PORTSMOUTH, PLYMOUTH, AND MANY OTHERS ETC FLY SOUTH IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING OVER THE CHANNEL?????

[Guest shadow]

The way things are going we may not get any racinf this year be it inland or not. Just hope and pray no dead water fowl are founf here and prove positive other wise I think DEFRA willslap a ban on straight away.

[jimmy white]

just look at the map above, and that does not have the scottish racing on it or the north roaders, think about it, fill in scotland with birds flying from south to north and the north roaders coming south, u wont see nothing for lines,

 

YOUR BANG ON FIFER, YOUD NEED A BIG PENCIL :)

[mark]

the futherest you can can from pompey is south west plymouth cornwall way.

[Guest]

THINK I'LL JUST KEEP THE BIRDS IN  :-/ JUST INCASE THEY CLASH WITH THE NORTH ROADERS LOL  THEN STOP READING SOME POSTS  ::)WHAT ALOT OF BULL

[frank-123]

mark what about cherbourg or caen in france to portsmouth how fars that?

[frank-123]

clockman

iam just new to this game

do you think there is no clashing?

why is there so many pigeons lost and never reported?

why can a few birds make it in race time and others dont?

[frank-123]

HOW CAN PORTSMOUTH, PLYMOUTH, AND MANY OTHERS ETC FLY SOUTH IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING OVER THE CHANNEL?????

who says there not getting over the channel?

[Guest jason]

now lets get something straight, first it is safe to say there will be no channel racing because of the avian flu, secondly, if your worried about clashing, don't send your birds, theres no rule that says you have to send.

[frank-123]

not scared of clashing just trying to come up with ideas to stop clashing

anyone one who says ybs flying so close does not contribute to such heavy losses

has there head up there rectum!!!!!!

 

until the french& belgians say no racing

sure  31st march is when the eu meeting takes place

but people on this forum know already :

[Pompey Mick]

In 1983 I flew with the Solent fed after 7 west route races in which I lost two birds the Fed turned North, Clay Cross 163 mls 15 sent, 15 home , Selby 210 mls  16 sent, 13 home. next it was Sedgefield 250mls approx 9 sent, 9 home . Sedgefield 2,  10 sent, 9 home  after that we went to Berwick 350mls  12 sent, 12 home  the last OB race was Stonehaven 430 mls 15 sent,  14 home. All this with South road pigeons. I wasn't alone in the club with good returns.   YB's were even better,

first fed race Banbury 90mls 20 sent, 20 home.   Leamington  100mls  20 sent, 20 home  Clay Cross 163 mls  20 sent, 20 home.  Selby 210mls 20 sent, 18 home

back to Banbury , Leamington, Clay Cross 1 & Clay cross 2 In all of these races I entered 20 birds and got 20 home. I have gleaned these figures from my 1983 Year Book they are accurate.   Where's the problem ? Grab what racing you can get wherever it is , don't make problems that don't exist.  We were flying the North Route racing to Portsmouth on the South Coast and we coped O.K.

[Guest]

if your worried about clashing, don't send your birds

 

 

Thought we were having a discussion on how to improve things??  :-/

[Guest jason]

yeah, suppose so  :B

[mark]

cherbourg is about 116 to my father in laws house whhich is just outside southampton

[Guest]

Thanks for that post Pompey Mick, it fills me with loads of confidence.

[Guest]

Mick did you have to do extensive training north or did you just send em after training em south.

[perk]

i,ve a loft full of yearlings and two year olds that hav,nt seen the channel yet (move caused this) this year their going any where the nationals go and will be trained in any direction to suit