Sprint Cross Distance

[westy]

what would be the out come?

[Joe90]

middle lol

[westy]

lol but would they be any good?

[westy]

yh rose i have a distance and a sprint paired up on eggs i will see when i race if they are any good.

[Guest]

I paired a distance cock to a sprint hen and ended up with a cock that sprints from 400mile, Ive never seen a pigeon get in so fast like he does from a channel race.

[southbankhs]

a friend of mine topped the up north combine last year westy with a cross like that

[jimmy white]

WE BUY SPRINT PIGEONS EXPECTING THEM TO SPRINT, AND TREAT THEM AS SUCH, WE BUY DISTANCE PIGEONS, EXPECTING THEM TO FLY THE DISTANCE,,,, I THINK MORE IMPORTANLY, IS WHAT JOB THEIR SET UP FOR.

[westy]

WE BUY SPRINT PIGEONS EXPECTING THEM TO SPRINT, AND TREAT THEM AS SUCH, WE BUY DISTANCE PIGEONS, EXPECTING THEM TO FLY THE DISTANCE,,,, I THINK MORE IMPORTANLY, IS WHAT JOB THEIR SET UP FOR.

 

yes jimmy true

 

 

[pigeonchested]

I think I am correct in saying Breakaway, raced by Ron Green was bred this way. ;D

[Diamond dave]

Are you talking distance or diiiiiiiiistance.

Surely the pigeons for the diiiiiiiiistance are built differently. Why would you want to cross?

[Guest WINGS 04]

how tells the pigeon that it is for distance or sprint ???????????????????????????? you just go to try them to see.

[speedbird]

ive had 2friends 1buy distance & the other buy sprint & both winninig the opisite to what they bought!!!

 

my dad bought hermans years ago which are suppoesed to be sprinters & dad sold some which turened out to win both sprint & distance but mainly at the distance race the first one he bought was named golden girl all off her won at distance and to this day some are still doing the works for me

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

slow sprinters and quickly burnt out distance birds try following the method of race horse breeders

they only put like to like

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

just a thought westy

what distance do you mean by distance birds

500 600 700 miles

[snowy]

just a thought westy

what distance do you mean by distance birds

500 600 700 miles

 

hi nancyviewlofts,

he meant breeding a janssen(sprint)

with a putman (distance)

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

hi why do it

[Mike Lycett]

Basically I thinki you'd get a pigeon that was no good at both.  Sprinter that had his speed tamed a little, and endurance that had been hampered too.

Personally, I'd stay well clear-  although I know of exceptions.  There are always exceptions to every rule if you look enough

 

Mike

[Guest]

Hi

It depends on what distance you define a sprinter. Over in Belgium Sprint Pigeons is from 40 miles to 150 miles. Then you have the Middle distance from 150 miles up to 400 miles then the Fond Meaning long distance up to 550miles then you go on to the Grote Fond Known as the heavy Races

So if you rate a Sprint pigeon that flys no more than 150 Miles and pair it to a Grote Fond or Fond Pigeon you are in most cases dulling the performance of both as Mike says, But say you pair a Middle Distance up to 400 miles to a Grote Fond pigeon the result would come out more satisfactory than the first pairing mentioned

I.e A Janssen Based Pigeon which has scored well up to 400 miles Paired to Pigeons of the Aarden Line have produced some top National Winning Pigeons at 600 miles

Ex_ Pat

[jimmy white]

how did we get distance birds and sprint birds in the first place,,, by selective breeding, anything can be tried in breeding, and with the proper management, youll find out their worth,,,good or  bad

[andrew]

Hi, our outcomes with the spirnt x distance =

 

We Paired our De Klak Cock (sprint) to a long distance Hen and this bred 2 sisters

 

1 Lady Helen

2 Lady Becky

 

1ST National Pau only bird in GB on the day

4th National Dax

2nd Hens International Dax

23rd International 17,526 birds

 

+ Many other fed wins etc etc

 

[snowy]

great news that,

thanks

[jimmy white]

same here andrew paired an out and out sprint bird to my old distance breed, was 25 national,,, had an out and out sprint bird top the combine both 505 miles, but found for the 600odd miles needs a special kind of bird, sir colin was 2 national flying 608 miles 1st bird flying over 600 miles in a hard north east wind, i doubt whether these first two birds would have got home,,, theres as many differant types of races than there is differant types of pigeons, so its horses for courses    p.s a yb bred from sir colin topped the fed from penrith, about eighty odd miles.

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

sorry jimmy cant agree with you take another look at race horse breeders

if they want a 5 or 6 furlong fold they have covered by a stallion that has done the business at that distance likewise at 1 and half -2 milers  thats selective breeding

of course only my view

[Guest shadow]

Andrew what distance do you fly from Pau at a guess 400 mls therefore your sprint cross would work but having to fly 700_800 mls your better off sticking to distance bred birds. Have tried sprint x distance and on hard days they dont handle it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Shadowood Lofts"

[westy]

well have a pair of sprint cross distance will se how they do in yb racing