breeding question

[johnny11]

Could someone tell me why some birds wattles are stained when rearing and some are not and is this a negative pointer

john

[jimmy white]

i dont know the answer to that,johny, but what i can say is that the birds that hardly look like feeding young have been better birds for me [to me their healthier, and go through less stress,whilst feeding]

[johnny11]

thanks Jim

 

does that go for stock birds aswell/

 

john

[Mike Lycett]

John

 

If Dave allen was answering this question then he'd say it was a sign of canker. Me, I think its just the style of fededing each pigeon performs.  If they're clear a week after the YBs have gone - that's the main thing

 

UP THE BAGGIES

 

Mike

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

well said mike

but i think its definetly down for the baggies

[jimmy white]

yes , johny , that goes for stock bird as well

[pigeonjock]

WE DONT PAY NO MUCH ATTENTION AS SOME BIRDS ARE DIRTY FEEDERS AND SOME AREN'T.I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MIKE IN THAT AS LIONG AS THEY CLEAR UP A WEEK OR SO AFTER THE YOUNG HAVE GONE THROUGH THEN THEY SHOULD BE OK

[maverick]

THE DIRTIEST FEEDING HEN I HAVE GOT HAS BRED MANY GOOD WINNERS FOR MYSELF AND OTHERS

[peterpau]

Sorry Mike I have to agree with Dave Allen I think it's a sign of canker, and I would allways view these birds with suspiscion

 

 

 

 

             THE BAGGIES ARE GOING DOWN

 

But then I just saw England France Oooooooops

[westy]

i have noticed that it is stained red, i think it is the milk they feed the youngens.

[Guest]

Westy, that will be the minerals that stain their beaks, and also Hormoform gives a red tinge. Its a good question from Johny11 that ive always wondered, and Ive noticed yearlings are generally more prone to it as they are so kean with their first babies that they seem to feed more often (Until they start driving). My best cock from last year is bringing two babies up himself and has been for since they were 10 days old (his hen dissappeared off the loft) and he hasnt shown any sign of stain on his wattle. Dont agree with it being an indicater of canker like, as mine were cankered while they were sitting.

[westy]

yes i have noticed ot with my yearlings but not the old birds.

[Guest shadow]

I think it just a case of some birds being heavier feeders than the others, and is in no way related to canker.

[Chatrace]

If it is related to sickness ,it  will have something to do with respatroy if anything,but would think it was from feeding more than not.

[robert.sutherland]

i think its more like younger birds are novices at feeding than been anything wrong when thay get to two years old you hardly ever see mucky wattles A mate of mine last year had a youngen raceing in the LEEDS mid week the only bird he raced every week feeding a youngen bye its self and its wattles looked like an old streeter but still went on winning cards every week this bird made him the second highest prize money winner from just one bird and for most of that time it had dirty wattles so what can we draw from this                                                                                                                                            I wouldent worry to much if the young are ok                                yours in sport                

[Tico]

I think its down to wether the birds are wet feeders. Never heard of this being related to canker.....if thats the case I,d better get some of mine treated agen!

[snowy]

i have noticed that it is stained red, i think it is the milk they feed the youngens.

 

i think thats the homoform martin.

well spotted though