westy Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 WHEN DO YOU LEARN THE YBS TO TRAP IS THERE AN AGE OR SOMETHING.
Guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 SOON AS THEIR WEANED WESTY, MINE GO IN A CAGE AND LEARN TO GO THRU THE STALL TRAPS ASAP
Rentenier Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 I believe YBS must be in the air by 30 days. They should trap from 20days, even if it is only to get use to the are arround the loft.
westy Posted March 18, 2006 Author Report Posted March 18, 2006 thanks both of you what it is i am putting a trap in tomorrow but i have ybs not flying yet but hovering and a few flying around the loft. what would i do get the ybs that cant fly off the floor and push them through the trap or what.
Rentenier Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 Close your trap off with removeable chicken wire and put them through the trap from the inside. When they get hungry they will enter the loft on their own steam. Make sure you only feed them after they have entered the loft, that way they will know they will only be fed once they are inside.
westy Posted March 18, 2006 Author Report Posted March 18, 2006 i will get a pic tomorrow and post it on here for you
MsPigeon Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 It does get difficult Westy when you have different age birds to train. I usually put the youngest in a crate and set them outside to see around while the older young birds play a while. Like Rentenier said, make sure they are hungary so they will trap better. After they have traped I put the younger ones on the landing board with a settling cage. A setteling cage is just a removable cage that allows them to sit on the landing board in front of the closed bobs and figure out how to go in them. They can see the others inside eating and this helps. But sometimes I do have to push some through, some learn quicker than others. The setteling cage can just be made from chicken wire like Rentenier said or it can be a part of the flight pen. Yours in the sport. Carol
Pompey Mick Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 Westy I always put my YB's through the trap at the earliest opportunity. I would normally have them in the basket ,before they are strong on the wing ,outside of and facing the loft for about an hour before feeding time then I would put them through the trap one at a time into the loft for their food. Regular feeding times are a must with YBs
jimmy white Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 yes put them on the landing board , and at feeding time just nudge them in through the bobs, theyll soon get the hang of it, :)
Guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 I give them a few days bell training, that is ringing my bell to get them to trap in from the aviary, they soon learn that my bell is the dinner bell and when they trap in their food is waiting for them
Peckedhen Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 At what age do you stop having the food available for them the whole time? Then do you limit them the amount they eat and feed just once a day? :-/
Rentenier Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 People will have diffrent views on when you stop having food available all day, but once the bird is flying arround the loft I only give food once a day. In the morning at the same time after they have trapped.
jimmy white Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 once their flying round i would feed them once a day, usually evening
westy Posted March 19, 2006 Author Report Posted March 19, 2006 thanks all, Rentenier got some photos but battary in camera flat so cant put on the pc they are chargeing now so i will put photos on tomorrow.
Guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Posted March 21, 2006 Westy, I use a sputnik trap, but until two weeks B4 I train them they only use the loft door. Then I keep them hungry and lock them all out and put some corn in the sputnik where they can see it. I wait until two weeks B4 training because, if I were to use the sputnik from the start I would have no way of controlling the length of time they were flying. i.e. door shut equals flying - door open equals feeding. They then only use the sputnik when they are trained, so I dont have to be there on their return, but they can get in to feed. So there is no rule of when to start to use the trap, as they will quickly learn to go in the loft for food after a few days. Hope this helps!!
Diamond dave Posted March 21, 2006 Report Posted March 21, 2006 Westy, I put a training crate up to the sputnik and let the just weaned babies find their own way into it. After a week in their new loft I take the crate away and open the trap. I leave the stand for the crate there so they can hop in an out of the loft. They quickly start to come down to the floor then start to fly around. I give them an open loft from 2pm till I come home from work at 5.30. when I feed them in. At this age they are NEVER hungry and I am happy that they go out with a full crop. I dont force them to go out, they will all find thier own way out in thier own time and they always find thier way back in again. I start to discipline them to the corn tin when the clocks change and I can let them out when its light when I'm home from work. Every one will probably be different to suit their own circumstances. One good tip for you Westy is never shut your youngsters out of the loft when they are out flying in case of hawks - they need to know that the loft is thier sanctuary and thats why I never PUSH my babies out. It's a nervy time for all of us mate when they start flying but try not to be too anxious!!!
Peckedhen Posted March 21, 2006 Report Posted March 21, 2006 That looks good Westy - I don't know why I thought I needed a sputnik. ;D
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