yearling Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 just been reading on a hunting forum , will a wood pigeon inter breed with a racer ? ie produce young is there any evidence either way, this should put the cat amongst the pigeons lol
blaz Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 no i dont think you can cross a wood pigeon with a raceing pigeon if birds could cross you would not have any wood pigeons left
yearling Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 i agree with you, i think they wouldnt as they are a differant gene pool,why anybody would try either i dont know
Guest IB Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 I doubt that they are so genetically different that one pigeon couldn't fertilize the other. Think its the opportunity for mixing that's missing - there's too many of their own kind for that normally. Would need to be an extreme case, for example the only two pigeons in an aviary and kept confined in it?
Guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 well a fox and a dog can breed together if a *expletive removed* in heat is tied to a tree and a male fox will service it and the young will be ok but the fox will try and kill the dog after so the hunter needs to be close by to shoot the fox, but i dont know why they would want this breed. but my point is that this would not occur in the wild, maybe its something similar with the wood pigeon. if the circumstances were right they would breed, but again why would you want to?
pigeonscout Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 town pigeons can interbreed with Wood pigeons, male Common Pigeons (feral pigeon, Rock Dove) have produced fertile hybrids with female Wood Pigeons.
Guest peter.j Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 well a fox and a dog can breed together if a *expletive removed* in heat is tied to a tree and a male fox will service it and the young will be ok but the fox will try and kill the dog after so the hunter needs to be close by to shoot the fox, but i dont know why they would want this breed. but my point is that this would not occur in the wild, maybe its something similar with the wood pigeon. if the circumstances were right they would breed, but again why would you want to? dogs and foxes cant produce together as a fox is more like a cat genetically they may breed but no young would result the old wives have been at it again dogs and wolves yes but not foxes , woodies and racers probably could hybridize but any young from this cross would more than likely be mules/infertile
cowman Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 my mate tried it once crossed woody with racer the young birds were so wild he let them out of the loft just to get shot of them so it is geneticly possible to cross woody and racer .
Guest shadow Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 wood pigeons can be crossed with domestic pigeons but the offspring are infertile, but why do it ?
black badge Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Cross a parrot with racing pigeons so they can ask there way back when lost. ;D
Guest IB Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Isn't it the mule that's the sterile offsping of a horse and a donkey, and sterile because these animals have different numbers of chromosomes leaving their mule offsping with an odd number? Do pigeon species share the same number of chromosomes? If they do, would the offspring of a cross between two types of pigeon necessarily be sterile?
Guest peter.j Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 CANRY X GOLDFINCHES ARE CALLED GOLDFINCH MULES DUE TO THEM BEING INFERTILE SO I USED THIS TO EXPRESS THEY MAY BE STERILE A LOT ARE NOT STERILE THEY JUST HAVE A ROGUE GENE THAT MEANS THE YOUNG DIE IN THE NEST AT AN EARLY AGE 5-12 DAYS CREST BRED CANARIES HAVE THIS WHEN TWO CRESTED BIRDS ARE BRED TOGETHER...PETER sorry didnt realise i was shouting
Guest IB Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Scroll down to 'Hybrid Pigeons'. http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/hybrid-birds.htm
Guest peter.j Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 thats a damn good read but theres some butt ugly birds there ,i stand corrected maybe the woody x racer wouldnt be infertile ....pete but you still cant cross a fox with a dog ;D
kirky Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 i once reared a woody from the egg under my fancy birds , it flew out with my birds for over a year never tried to pair when it found a mate it took back to the wild, but tried several times to call its mate into the loft.
DeDarren Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 but you still cant cross a fox with a dog ;D Not for the want of trying it would appear! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canid_hybrid
mark croker Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 When we were kids, a mate of mine exchanged 2 racers for 2 woodys, the young woodys died being fed by racers, but the others we seen picking worms for upto 6 months after
Leroy Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 i once reared a woody from the egg under my fancy birds , it flew out with my birds for over a year never tried to pair when it found a mate it took back to the wild, but tried several times to call its mate into the loft. once read an article about someone who reared a woody from an egg either under some rollers or nuns. only reared ne because of the size difference and i think when it flew out it flew somewhere in the middle, the nuns scimming the rooftops and the rollers flying higher. was that you??? Lee
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