YB RACING

[jimmy white]

WHAT WOULD BE THE FORUMS VIEWS ON YBS RACED RIGHT OUT TO ,SAY 300 MILES OR THEREABOUTS, OR YBS TRAINED AND RACED MAYBE 100 MILES,,,,,, AS YEARLINGS AND TWO YEAR OLDS WOULD THEY BE BETTER FOR ONE, OR THE OTHER.

[jimmy white]

MY OPINION WOULD BE IT WOULDNT MAKE MUCH DIFFERANCE,, BUT WITH PLENTY PRIVATE TRAINING AND A RACE OR TWO, YOU WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING MORE ,1,2,3 YEAR OLDS LEFT TO MATURE AND RACE WITH,

[T_T]

Hi Jimmy,

               I'm sure like myself, you have tried all ways with youngsters, giving them a few races and stopping them to let them mature. ?  Deep down I still think the best young un's are the ones that are trained hard and go to every race as young birds.  For some reason we don't seem to be able to get the chance to race them all the way through though because before they get there, they are lost.

There are several reasons I think for this, such as mobile phone masts, hawks, race controllers, overcrowding, poor stock, the fancier, etc I suppose the list is endless.  

Whatever happens, I know we do it all over again.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tony C]

I've found my better oldbirds are 2nd/3rd round youngsters trained well, lightly raced.

[Guest]

hi...ive found that youngsters and old birds tend to be better racers when they are happy at the cot.

i sit for hrs with the youngsters giving them titbits while they are sitting all around me.peanuts are a good calming method.i dont train my youngsters for more then 20mls,but more often its as little as 10mls.i train throughout the race programme maybe 3 times a week.as u know 2 major causes of youngbird loses are ...hawk attacks (diving into the homing bunch and dispersing them) and crossing other training/racing batches..i had a grizzle cock fly 2 races at the end of the  y/b race programme to win for me on a few occasions as a yearling/older.this bird was lost this year as a 4 yr old in liege 381 mls..........10 training toses and 2 y/b races as a youngster.

[Beanz]

I think it takes all sorts, I have raced them all through and my best bird at the moment was not raced at all as a youngster but was given 3 training tosses and left till a yearling, what you will notice is that if you take a nest pair race and train one of these and leave the other to mature there will be a vast difference in their body size and stature

but which one will be the best, well taht will be the pigeon with the most brains.

[Guest]

Personally I like to race all my young birds out to 300 miles, this is the only way to prove the pairings out.

 

They are trained hard and flown on darkness.  Just having raced our first club 300 miler I can now see a distinct pattern on what to pair together for next year.

[Guest slugmonkey]

I fly ALL my ybs out to 300 and as yearlings I send them 600 I too am noticing a very distinct pattern my better birds are coming from the race loft and not the breeding loft I have been putting these birds back with parents and grand parents and am seeing the benifits we had two of the best AHPI gold band birds in the country last year and both of these are the same lines the YB was bred down from an inbred cousin of the OB I have 6 birds in the world ace challenge race 2 of these are off the Veenstra/ Koopman birds I am always touting on here, 2 of the others are off the same lines as the AHPI birds mentioned before and another is out of the son of Tri Star I got 90th on the 1st toss with one of the Veenstras this birds is a full brother to the birds that got 65th and 67th in the Texas shootout race