Training YB System

[Diamond dave]

Jimmy

 

I dont train any birds in an East wind - it always seems to take too much out of them - Young birds seem to struggle in an East wind and Ive noticed that when anyone says they have had a bad chuck with them it is always on an East wind.

Old birds too, dont seem to want to fly in an East wind - I think it is a very dry wind.

 

Does anyone else car train there babies - I like to give them half a dozen runs in the car prior to liberating them - I think this is the most stressful part of training ybs

especially if you shut them away in a boot!

[Guest speckled]

;D ;D Lol diamond dave,it would stress them out in the back of the boot of the car try, ;D putting them in a crate first,does help. ;D ;D ;D Opps sorry do thay wear a seat belt. Speckled

[Diamond dave]

Lol back at ya SpecKled

 

I dont use as much petrol with them flapping around in the back

[snowy]

I think I might miss the first few YB races this year and wait until they are past the 100mile point, as it seems after the first few races you get fewer losses.

 

i also have been told this by many a fancier.

[Guest speckled]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Speck.

[speedbird]

training starts from weaning i always but a basket in the loft ith shavings saoles 2issues being cold & on the floor keeps em warm & use to basket i always feed in there at an early stage once through darkness training begins

[schouwman71]

training young birds is a about getting them from A to B in the quickest possible time,they get fit through good care and flying out,sending them on 30 ml tosses will not necesarraly beat the ones trained at 8 mls,its all about getting them home fast.

[Guest jason]

as we live in a valley, we have to start training at about a mile then we keep going in 1 mile stages but in 2002 I couldn't be bothered with training and kept them at 1 mile training chucks (twice per day), when the first race came (62 miles) I was 1st and 3rd club and first fed! brilliant ;D ;D

[speedbird]

well mine will be trained to come home as soon as birds are kitting together all young no weaned now learning to feed in basket also to basket them selves

[Mike Lycett]

With youngsters its all about education & in terms of taking them up the road - the sooner the better.   Ours are always on the move from 12 weeks of age.  Crucially though, because we breed only a small team of YBs they always get let go in groups of 3 and 4.  Even from Training toss No. 1

 

[Guest]

hit the nail on the head there mike. this i belive is the best and only way to train them (3 or 4 at a time). i belive this for a number of reasons,    hawk strikes,   making them think,,    etc

[peterpau]

I start at 15mls  for about 6/8 chucks about 10 days before the first race. IN GOOD WEATHER. Then straight to first race about 85mls and then they go wherever my truck goes north east south or west, trying to give 'em an hours fly. They don't want to be doing any of this circling malarky I tell you. My son has to go to school so they gotta be back before he goes

[Rentenier]

Our first race is 300km and we have to toss them at least 10,30,50km to make them use to the area.

[Guest]

Rentenier,

 

Don't you start racing birds as yearlings, didn't think they raced young birds at all in Union Of South Africa

[snowy]

hi,

our young birds are only just weaned & we have only 2 at the moment going for a fly, the others come out & just watch them,

do we just leave them to take it at their own pace to go on loft etc?

as some cant fly yet?

regards

[MsPigeon]

I would most certainly let them go at their own pace. I like them to feel safe at home and don't like to chase them out or scare them into flight before they are going out an in on there own very well. Then I might encourage them to go out or keep them flying with a flag.

Yours in the sport.

Carol

[Guest]

We wean our young birds at about 23 days and I spend a few days trap training them with the bell.

 

I echo what Carol said, when I let them out into the big wide world, I let them to their thing for a few days but after that the big red flag comes into play, they ust be taught that they should onl;y be in 2 places, in the air or in the loft

[jimmy white]

the idea of mike lycett is a good one, not only does it educate the y. birds well ,it avoids many injuries , i see batches training near me [a power station where all the pylon wires meet] you see the first ones in the batch fly over them ,then the last ones dont see the wires,then ,,  wallop, and you see about 3 dropping, i also beleive thats why so many ybs come back with broken legs,etc,,and also for the hawk problem....if you have the time its worth it, i also wouldnt move them further, till they did  half circle then away,each time, i used to start mine at 10 weeks, but were well basket trained before this, i trained from 5 to 50 miles on the line of flight, then train all ways,,,singled up nearer the national races,,, but allways kept a few back from racing or maybe give them the odd race at about 100 miles [as the yb racing can be so unpredictable]

[Rentenier]

We do not have youngbird racing in south africa.We fly any age allthough we do have some races where the bird must be born in the previous year, that is why the date rings are issued, is such an important factor. I still believe if a pigeon is put in the air tooolate it will not perform in its life time.

[speedbird]

mine are all ready basket trained now going through the traps with 1blow of the whistle they are in the hut & same with geting em in the basket,train from 2miles let go in small numbers no more than 6/10 in each team with small gaps in between

[Guest]

Tossing in small batches is the right way to go about it.  Steve drives them out and calls me once the first batch is up and will not put anymore up until I call him to say the first batch has arrived. If they come in split up or take too long the others are brought back, and usually taken again later the same day.

 

We have very few losses in training, but 12 weeks is far too old for us, our birds went down the road last year albeit about a mile at 40 days.

[Guest CS]

I always take my ybs to 10 miles for the first time toss, they will have about 6 or 8 times toss for 10 miles,,,then 22 miles.........

 

Best of luck with Youngsters 2007..everyone

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

I GO 3.4.5.7.9.10,12, THEN 15,AND THEN IF THEY NEED IT 2 FROM 20

[Guest slugmonkey]

I start 10 - 15 then bump to 20 -30 I give them lots of time between tosses and have food on the floor and the traps open once I have them out past 50 then I worry about trying to get them to trap I cut the feed back and start doing a lot of short tosses ( 3 a day ) I wont win the first 100 this way ( ok sometimes I do ) I do single toss but only after they are coming good from 30+ miles I do think that guy wiley has it right though about starting the training too late and not making the birds think enough although once I get them past 30 I also LIKE a bad day where most of the birds come on the 2nd day this is like sending them to college and the ones that come from that are most likely to stil be here in year 3 of old birds !!!

[birdman55678]

I checked the 3 mile one but that was only because it was the shortest.  My first release is from my driveway where they can see the loft.  Of course this is only with ybs..