Natural system

[Ed Bourque]

Can someone explain, what is the natural system? thanks Ed

[Wiley]

keeping cocks and hens together to lay and have babies basically

[Guest]

Racing the birds paired up, mine are racing natural this year. Most are driving or sitting on eggs etc.

[Roland]

keeping cocks and hens together to lay and have babies basically

 

Behave yerself, nothing like. Yes mine used to stay together all year round. But it is allowing 'Nature' the oppotunity to 'Condition your birds and settling them for the chosen races. Much forethought and planning has to go into it. Moreover a readily made system that can be quickly changed. Obviously they carry  the first basic instinc, and that is the all important 'Contentment'. A nature 'Jealousy' is operated which EVERY motivation has t o have, at least in part.

  A equal hen will alway beat a Cock bird on the distance and hard days. Likewise now, good natural flyers are excelling against their counter parts on 'Widowerhood'. And this sems more so as fanciers are getting a better understanding of utalising the system. Open hole is great where it is possible, but not neccesary for the results one wishes to achieve or maintain.

[Wiley]

 

Behave yerself, nothing like. Yes mine used to stay together all year round. But it is allowing 'Nature' the oppotunity to 'Condition your birds and settling them for the chosen races. Much forethought and planning has to go into it. Moreover a readily made system that can be quickly changed. Obviously they carry  the first basic instinc, and that is the all important 'Contentment'. A nature 'Jealousy' is operated which EVERY motivation has t o have, at least in part.

  A equal hen will alway beat a Cock bird on the distance and hard days. Likewise now, good natural flyers are excelling against their counter parts on 'Widowerhood'. And this sems more so as fanciers are getting a better understanding of utalising the system. Open hole is great where it is possible, but not neccesary for the results one wishes to achieve or maintain.

 

o well i guess im wrong in your books, nevermind, ive raced what i call the natural system in the past and had very good results,BUT like i said my post previous is BASIC!

 

 

[Guest]

 

o well i guess im wrong in your books, nevermind, ive raced what i call the natural system in the past and had very good results,BUT like i said my post previous is BASIC!

 

 

think you gave a good enough answer to what was asked

[Roland]

No not wrong... just not accurate If I said that Widowerhood was just 'Keeping the sexes apart, show them to each other before basketing them then you would say that I wasn't right. Indeed widowerhoods will fly just as well to the 'Nest Bowl, or there nest box, so in reality it isn't necessarily correct to show their mates.... indeed why bother witha round -a - bout system if that works, for it will work even better with hens than cock birds... So firstly I appoligise Wiley for how it came across for I wasn't having a dig, I just thought that the basis needed a little more than what was given.

[Wiley]

No not wrong... just not accurate If I said that Widowerhood was just 'Keeping the sexes apart, show them to each other before basketing them then you would say that I wasn't right. Indeed widowerhoods will fly just as well to the 'Nest Bowl, or there nest box, so in reality it isn't necessarily correct to show their mates.... indeed why bother witha round -a - bout system if that works, for it will work even better with hens than cock birds... So firstly I appoligise Wiley for how it came across for I wasn't having a dig, I just thought that the basis needed a little more than what was given.

 

fair enough roland apolagy accepted, however the way your statement started 'Behave yourself, nothing like' to my eyes it was a belittling statement that came across due to my age and because of this you were judging my knowledge, and certainly appeared to myself that a dig was taking place. However apology accepted and will be brushed under the mat!

[Ed Bourque]

Thank everyone for the info. Ed

[Guest WINGS 04]

Can someone explain, what is the natural system? thanks Ed

 

their is nothing NATURAL about taken birds from their babys or eggs to races  

[Roland]

There is nothing hardly natural in racing pigeons full stop.

Indeed  the Father of the Jansenn brothers wouldn't allow the 'Unnatural' practise of widowerhood like many others. But that is a can of worms best left unopened.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

There is nothing hardly natural in racing pigeons full stop.

Indeed  the Father of the Jansenn brothers wouldn't allow the 'Unnatural' practise of widowerhood like many others. But that is a can of worms best left unopened.

 

do you want a can opener ? ;D ;D

[Roland]

Nah... Too many 'Do - Gooders' taking pot shots already without adding fuel to their so called 'Cause'.!

[jimmy white]

Can someone explain, what is the natural system? thanks Ed

 

hi ,, the" term" we use as racing the natural system , is usualy racing with pigeons flying naturaly,  mated etc ,,,opposed to widower hood [separated] or roundabout system[ separated cocks and hens]

[batusai]

I guess the natural system is when both the sexes are on the same loft and they become partners w/o any interventions..... since most of the pratice is we separated the hen from the cock for at least a week before we paired them...

 

 

batusai!

[woodlandlofts]

I have had my birds on natural system for ten years and they fly very well on it

[Ronnie]

The natural system as i understand it is having cocks and hens in same loft paired together they then race back to there home.The fancier has to find various ways to motivate either the cock or hen or both for each race they are entered in.This could be from when first paired to chasing for egg's.Chip outs  sitting youngsters at various stage's and so on.From what ive seen Natural is the most time consuming of all the so called racing systems due to the training needed but the biggest plus is it learns you to understand your pigeons a lot better and you can really get to know your pigeons.Also just because there in the natural loft dosnt mean they have to be paired.Its all about finding whats best for each bird making them content then getting them to race home.

It also has peak's and troughs to form and fitness witch other systems dont seem to suffer as much.I am flying natural this year as its my first Old bird season and its not as easy as it sounds but as i am learning i think i have benifitted from all the mistakes ive made.And the most annoying thing i have found is nothing is as natural as it seems on the natural system

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

If you are setting up for a specific race the natural system is VERY hard to beat right now I have my 2 best cocks on 14 day old babys we have a 5oo mile race this weekend so everything should be just fine my 2 best hens are on 17 day eggs I will put plastic eggs with crickets in them under these two hens unless I get lucky and they hatch then I will leave both cock and hen there until the minute I leave for the race I should do well this week I dont think you get the consistiency with the natural system that you do with others but I thing the " Highs  " are better than the other systems if you are looking for a specific result on a specific day this is the way to go