Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME ADVICE IN WHICH WOULD SUIT ME BEST?
Wiley Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 well ben all depends upon ur set up time you have and stuff give us some details and we'll give the tips
Guest coxy Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 if u want to race the longer and later races in the season then darkness is a must and split the cocks and hens and let them together on a friday the same as roundabout in a way so u have the trapping through the same door. i have also topped the fed with them on a yb
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 i will only be racing 4-5 races about 40-120 miles,i have a 16x8 section with 6 poly carb windows,in so lots of light with 100 purches,i have about 4 hours after school in the summer and the birds go training every day
Wiley Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 isit possible to make covers for these windows to darken the loft of.As darkness is a must. Preferably split sections cocks and hens you will notice the fly around the house better, and also add motivation.But on the combine race id have them together and prefereably sitting eggs or a small youngster!Next time you ring me ben we'll talk more about it if you like
Guest CS Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Darkness YBs.. mix Hens and cocks in the YB lofts. Good luck ( Clicked wrong vote... sorry... )
Wiley Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 natural or drakness for me. lol thats what the main poll is about lol
Ronnie Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 What a lot people dont realise is that darkness youngsters mature earlier as well so they act and think like yearlings .so you can race them on widowwood with no problems.Natural birds will keep up with darkness birds in the early race's but not very often will they beat the darkness youngster in the early or later race's.I know this will get some people disagreeing with me .Also even rubbish birds will fly well on the darkness thats why people say it turns them stupid because an average young bird as a youngster will still be average as a yearling but when its on darknesss as a younster it will fly well then as a yearling turn back into an average youngster.Lol i hope that sounds right ,its confused myself.
westy Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 lol thats what the main poll is about lol lol
dragons lair Posted January 27, 2007 Report Posted January 27, 2007 Please explain the light system for me. I have chicks that will be weaned around the second weekend in Feb
pigeonscout Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Ronnie you are right it what you say they do not become bad old birds they just lost the advantage of racing with a full wing against birds that or heavy in moult.
pigeonscout Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Ronnie you are right it what you say they do not become bad old birds they just lost the advantage of racing with a full wing against birds that or heavy in moult.
jimuck Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 a good darkness system is when u can stand in the section when it is darkened down and read a book,and not all darkness birds turn out 2 be bad yearlings.
pigeonscout Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 Bert Brass, said that about reading a book and I could never understand why the birds needed to read.
pigeonscout Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 I think the best method for young birds is dark system then young hens paired to old cocks and young cocks paired to old hens then split until motivating for race. That way the young bird always has its mate waiting for it on return. There is nothing as bad as loosing young hens that were paired to your best young cocks or vice versa the week before the big race.
Guest shadow Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 The best method for newcomers and young members is natural for 2-3 seasons and get used to their birds. then progress to other systems, but whichever they choose stick to it and don't keep chopping and changing pigeonn like to be settled.
Roland Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 I believe anyway kept... just trained 200 miles in anyway which every day. I believe this is how I will do it this coming season. After they have finished ranging and are happy roof topping and picking in the garden, I start them of on 20 mile chuckes each day... 1/2 ounce feed in and the 1 ounce at night.
Guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 I believe anyway kept... just trained 200 miles in anyway which every day. Really Roland 200 miles a day , I am not sure I would recommend ben follows that advice - lol.
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 lol yer its long way to go for a few birds, ben
tubbles Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 I race the birds on the darkness system, it seems like a must do thing right now. When the old bird season is over with I tend to move the old birds that i am keeping for next year into the stock loft ( these are normally seperated by this time ) keep all the cocks together and then put the young cocks into the old bird race loft. on fridays let them run together with the hens and send to the race. It is like widowhood but the youngsters come home from training together and that can't be helped. The birds look really good like this. As for results, i am not really a keen young bird racer but i realise it is a necessary evil. at least this way you don't worry so much about the cocks driving to nest or hens being in egg, but they really are motivated. and that is better than just racing to the corn tin.
Wiley Posted February 18, 2007 Report Posted February 18, 2007 I race the birds on the darkness system, it seems like a must do thing right now. When the old bird season is over with I tend to move the old birds that i am keeping for next year into the stock loft ( these are normally seperated by this time ) keep all the cocks together and then put the young cocks into the old bird race loft. on fridays let them run together with the hens and send to the race. It is like widowhood but the youngsters come home from training together and that can't be helped. The birds look really good like this. As for results, i am not really a keen young bird racer but i realise it is a necessary evil. at least this way you don't worry so much about the cocks driving to nest or hens being in egg, but they really are motivated. and that is better than just racing to the corn tin. its a shame a couple of guys in your area dont train pigeons in my area i think rather lucky have a choice from about 3 people. What i tend to do is send my hens to the early morning toss get this home about 10.00 and send my cocks to an evening toss on another guy which they come home about 3.00. Works a treat for me especially at that time is when im on 6 weeks holidays which is an added bonus
Guest bristolkev Posted March 11, 2007 Report Posted March 11, 2007 hey redfox check out these systems, they make interesting reading if you wanna try something new! http://www.pigeon-chat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2633 http://www.pigeon-chat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2737
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