How long to keep found bird?

Peckedhen · August 13, 2007

A young bird trapped with mine two weeks ago. I contacted the owner (it was stamped) who told me it was from very valuable parents and he would see if he could find someone to collect it but, if he couldn't, I could keep it.

I don't want to keep the bird, a fancier has checked it out and says that it nowhere compares to my own birds and he doesn't want it either. So, how much longer should I hang onto it? Would it be reasonable to take it for a ride in the direction of it's home and release it?

August 13, 2007

What if it comes back to you ,i would report it to the union it belongs to and make them claim it ;D

Wiley · August 13, 2007

Hi Sue,

Common thing you normally hear on the end of the line when reporting birds, its out of such and such, that won such and such, but when i've always asked these fanciers for proof of race cards ect, always said they would send em down u guess what nothing. I think that would be a good idea that you go close to its home and try and release it, id say it would be best bet or as sammy says report to union.

Ryan

Roland · August 13, 2007

Just single toss it when someone is going their way.

Or tell him that you will be sending it back via Amtrak, C. O .D.

Wiley · August 13, 2007

Just single toss it when someone is going their way.
Or tell him that you will be sending it back via Amtrak, C. O .D.

lol that will rattle his cage lol ;D

Peckedhen · August 13, 2007

Thanks guys.

It's loft flying with my birds so I guess it would come back here if I release it too near.

I can send it to within 15 miles of it's home with a friend but, what if it gets lost? I don't want to annoy the owner but, there again, if he were so concerned about the bird he'd have sent for it wouldn't he? :-/

Wiley · August 13, 2007

ur right if he really wanted it would have sent for it

Peckedhen · August 13, 2007

Thanks Ryan. You've help me make my decision.

I've read a lot on here about lost YB not being reported. I think I'll think twice now...someone said chase them away.....not a bad idea maybe!!

August 13, 2007

Just single toss it when someone is going their way.
Or tell him that you will be sending it back via Amtrak, C. O .D.

AYE AND MAYBE THATS WHATS NEEDED WITH A LOT OF LOST BIRDS ROLAND, when somebody says they dont want it back or this and that sob story, do just that send it back via amtrak, they would think twice if they got another one reported

August 13, 2007

Thanks guys.

It's loft flying with my birds so I guess it would come back here if I release it too near.

I can send it to within 15 miles of it's home with a friend but, what if it gets lost? I don't want to annoy the owner but, there again, if he were so concerned about the bird he'd have sent for it wouldn't he? :-/

When I first started I used to fall for this all the time,people praying on your good nature and the fact you actually care about the bird,it's an admirable quality in a person to be like that but sadly people sometimes take advantage and before you know it you are spending more time fretting and caring for these birds than your own.Often I would agree to keep the bird purely for the birds sake [it can't help having a prat for an owner afterall],but after a couple of years of that and still to this day being stuck with a few which are never and will never be any use to you you have to toughen up,not easy I know but I know I would have a good ten less birds now if I hadn't fallen for the sob storries.The only reason he is telling you to release it is that he hopes it will get lost again so you won't be phoning him again as it is unlikely to find it's way now,think i've seen your birds and they look great,you certainly don't need this one.Tell him now in no uncertain terms he must make arrangements for it to be picked up or you will report him,otherwise he will mess you about for weeks.

tubbles · August 14, 2007

If you are not happy with the fanciers reply to you, ask a non fancier relative to report it to the union as then the flyer (RPRA anyway) has to arrange for something in two days. You could mind the bird until such time that he is coming for it or Amtrak turn up.

I am sort of middle of UK, Merseyside area and our federation have had a lot of birds go missing some reported south by racepoints and others in North East.

Everyone knows that Amtrak is £30 a go, so, many fanciers would just have to call it a day if they had lots of the missing birds reported. This is supposed to be a working mans sport but a lot around by me are unemployed or retired. even working people would find it hard to get 3 or 4 birds delivered home by amtrak prices. I would offer to dispose of or keep unless he wants it back. The sport in general can't afford to lose members for just not claiming a bird back.

Of course this is just my opinion.

stevebelbin · August 14, 2007

I go with the 3 strikes and their out policy

strike 1 = keep in for the night with water only and take a mile down the road.

strike 2 = if it comes back, report it and give the owner the chance to come for it.

strike 3 = see if the owner will get amtrak to pick it up.

If not then, you have done all you can to get it home, and if its still at yours, the owner doesnt deserve to keep pigeons.

I had one in not long back, and the bloke said he couldnt afford to pick it up or get amtrak to pick it, and he had lost quite a few that day. So i told him if he cant afford to collect them he should breed less to cut down the chance of losing so many. I couldnt quite understand his reply as it was full of expletives lol lol lol, so i put the phone down on him. I dont believe in killing strags, so the only way i can scare them off is to put my cat in the aviary with them for enough time to scare them away for good!!

The White Rapido Man · August 14, 2007

where I come from...if you get stragglers in the owners dont usually want them back as if they cant find their way home...they simlpy are no good.........

Alot of serious racing men I know will get in touch...and if uncollected, they are usually put in the wheely bin.................

Personally I dont race....so all my birds a re welome back if they 'go walkabout'

jimmy white · August 22, 2007

s h u rule 17,,a member having a stray pigeon in his loft , must give it its liberty , and if it does not leave within 7 days or, is unfit to do so, he shall, without delay, report it to the app, union secy. with full ring particulars,,etc..

rule 18,,, all members of the union shall be COMPELLED to acknowledge, within 3 days ,,,,,,etc,,,, if the owner takes no action ,,a second report will be sent and if the owner still takes no acknowledgement within 7 days ,, he is automatically suspended etc

dont think this rule is adhered to often

Peckedhen · August 23, 2007

Took this bird well on it's way home yesterday and released it. It arrived back at my loft today! :

I'm getting quite attached to it - at least I can recognise it - unlike all my whites!!;D

jimmy white · August 25, 2007

Took this bird well on it's way home yesterday and released it. It arrived back at my loft today! :

I'm getting quite attached to it - at least I can recognise it - unlike all my whites!!;D

aha ;D think your getting attached to it ok ;D and i think the bird is getting attached to you ;D ;D why not report it and explain to the guy and ask him to transfer it to you, it might be a good cross to your whites as they could well be inbred you might have a future champion team of ;D van pecked hens ;D ;D ;D well it sounds good ;D ;D ;D good luck with it