debonair.pidjin Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Hello. I want to change something in my loft and I want to see what you think - is it a really bad idea? If yes, why? My loft has two rooms and for now I used them this way: 1. Small one: young birds 2. Big one: old birds + some stock(in freedom) I want to get some really good stock birds this winter. The problem is that I can't setup a new room/loft. So, I want to move the stock birds in the small room of the loft and starting from 2008, keep both old birds and young birds racers in the same room - the big one. I have a big empty wall where I will install V perches for the YBs. I know that, for example, the YBs won't train so good when the flock is mixed with old birds... but I don't think this is a really big problem for me. I want to focus on long distance, keep a small team and race @ natural. What do you think? Will my "mixed birds" be ok? Thanks!
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 How big is the big room as you call it,would it not be possible to make the big room into two smaller ones as personally i would rather have the young birds in a room on there own.
Guest Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 My YBs are only held seperate from the OBs until I have them trained to come down off the perches when called, and they are strong on the wing, flying freely outside - then the birds run together 24/7. You'll find their Exercise regime will change as YBs mature; first stage: the OBs disappear and YBs stay local; second stage: they all disappear together, and come home together; and last stage: they all disappear together, but OBs will break and come home 1st.
Back garden fancier Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Plenty of fanciers don't remove young from their parents. Dale Newcombe of Scotland is a very successful fancier and he keeps them together all year round.
debonair.pidjin Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 Thank you for the replies! PIGEON_MAN: The "big room" is 3x3 meters, with the back wall filled with 25 nest boxes for the old birds. I would keep the YBs in their own loft but because of my job I sometimes have to be away from the birds for weeks, and for my father who doesn't really enjoy pigeons but has to feed them daily, 2 rooms are the maximum I can get. bruno & Back garden fancier: I feel better now, thanks! I had to do it anyway, but I feel better that other fanciers use this method too. Bruno, I kept the late breds with the OBS, and also noticed that this way, the youngsters enter the loft faster and are much tamer.
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Thank you for the replies! PIGEON_MAN: The "big room" is 3x3 meters, with the back wall filled with 25 nest boxes for the old birds. I can understand the problems you have with being away etc but by what you say your big room is approx 10ft by 10ft with 25 nest boxes so you could have 50 old birds in there as well as the youngbirds you could be causing yourself more trouble with overcrowding by having them all together.
debonair.pidjin Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 Tony, you are right! The thing is, there will never be 50 OBs. We must race long distance over the mountains and very few birds remain in the end of the season. I estimate I will always have about 20 mature birds or less.
The White Rapido Man Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 As I dont currently race but keep racing pigeon I keep mine together...............this is fine as long as you are not overcrowded and the young uns are not bullied from feeder and water hopper. Got to keep an close eye on whos doing what in the loft, as you can get an old cock that will harrass a young hen...................also a jealous cock with no hen will and can peck nestlings to death.....
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