breaking birds s...t

[lordcornwallis]

hi there mates ive had another cock up breaking a hen to my loft sitting 15 days and iam realy fed up, i went to bed last night at 8 as i was so down. so heres what happened i let the hen out at 1.30 after the rest of the birds were settled outside after 15min she went to the garden and then on to a garage roof and then on to a house roof in the next block .later on she moved on to another street and then i went round to see if i could coax her back by throwing a pigeon up next to her she ignored it later i went back round and she vanished. the pigeons been with me since january i got her at blackpool and has a address ring and so far these rings have been a fat lot of good to me . regards lc

[THE FIFER]

there is still a chance she will come back, i let a hen out by mistake, never seen her off like a shot, 4 days later she was sitting on top of the loft, got her in, and never took the chance to let her out again as i believe being away for 4 days she was trying to go back home to nottingham,

[Guest]

Always feel the new bird hanging around for a while is a good sign. think she will still be in the vicinity, so if you can, keep your own birds out as long as possible to bring her down. Good luck.

 

[Guest]

i thought i broke my scottish pigeon, but after several weeks of  coming in with my birds she dissapeared, never to be seen again,  :'( :'( :'(

[Guest]

We bought some birds from Germany for stock. During the race season when the stock birfds were split, we housed the stock hens in a section of the racing loft. One of these german stock hens got out. She was a yearling and had never been let out, never attempted settling. I was particularly upset as for me, she was the pick of the 5 we bought. Two days later, she came and trapped the door of the loft like she had come off a race!

 

So, if its in her head mate, she will come back! Try not to get too downearted! Good luck!

[frank-123]

my mardon hen was out this morning had my old birds out all day still not back

paid a few quid for it too but i hate to have prisoners so took my chance in trying to break her but i will learn one day

now i have no prisoners

[Guest Hjaltland]

Best of luck with your hen... been there done that!

 

She may well turn up after a few days, as I've experienced.

[The White Rapido Man]

I have tried and tried to settle stock over the yeasr and have lost far more thatn I have settled!!!!!!!!!

 

once they get a couple of years on them it gets harder....I can settle yearlings once they have bred their fiorst round but even then there are no firm rules.....

 

if shes still about thats good news....

 

 

I lost a logun hen from manchester 2 00m ile to the west.....it got back to the owner and I got it back.....it escaped again and I was called saying it had returned to manx......2 days later it flew back to me....strange!............

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[lordcornwallis]

thanks for all your kind input , ive not seen this hen since last night and iam is sick as a parrot , ive had a gutsfull and this has been the last straw so after the moult no more pigeons for me as i cant stand the way i feel when this happens. lc

[Guest]

clip one wing and let it walk about the garden all year till it moults again she will be no bother then

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

I have a yearling I bought from GANGSTER never let her out also a nice cock from a guy in Ireland but the cock needs open door never let any of them out but i will one day hopefully

[jimmy white]

"Always feel the new bird hanging around for a while is a good sign". think she will still be in the vicinity, so if you can, keep your own birds out as long as possible to bring her down. Good luck.

 

itll be back ,,when its beaten a bit    [the crop will bring her back when her reserves are down ],,,,good luck

[jimmy white]

broke 7 birds in 4 days ,, 6th day 4 mile toss   all home

[Guest]

broke 7 birds in 4 days ,, 6th day 4 mile toss   all home

 

any tips on how to do this Jimmy , could be useful tip , we have many asking about how to break birds on here ??                                                 andy

[jimmy white]

 

any tips on how to do this Jimmy , could be useful tip , we have many asking about how to break birds on here ??                                                 andy

 

just did it again today,after 4 days  [but after the birds were here for half an hour they went, but locked out their old loft as theve seen the place and will know quite well where to come back,[.tell you tomorrow ;D]

maybe not so much tips but common sense ,, first the birds have to be fed and watered in the new loft, [so get them when hungry from last loft],that lets them know theres grub and perch,,, then every day put a basket or a cage where they can see all around , leave them all day in this ,on top of loft ,, seeing the other birds getting a pick now and again through the day,on the loft and on the ground where they can see  [small seeds lasts longer doesnt fill them so quick , even seeing other birds in bath [better if unbroken ones never had bath for a while,]," all these things they want, but cant get" untill,,,, then of an evening , i take each bird out seperatly, hold it for a while on top of the loft [up step ladders] whilst feeding others in sputnick, then holding bird on sputnick [seeing the rest eating ] then allmost releasing it at the point of dropping in the sputnick [making sure it goes in and get a pick] i do this with every bird every day , then when hungry, [have the other birds out and landed] i open sputnick front and feed small amounts off seed all over,[in the evening,late] top of loft,sputnick [inside and out] and ground , have the bath ready if they want,, the idea [even if they go back to old loft], is try and hold them their for as long as poss so that they know thats were the grub is ,, no feeding at all or entering old loft ,,,,,theyll remember where they got that pick when their crops tell them   i once broke a bird, trained the bird, scored at 505 miles national ,,all in three weeks   :) true,, broke a 5 year old dark cock, that had flown up to 550 miles for previous owner in 4 days [driving] ,,,sounds daft,, but making the bird like you, having confidence in you ,trusting you ,,all helps in settling new birds    

[Guest]

;Dthanks Jimmy , will print this off for future refernce  ;D     andy

[THE PRIEST]

Totaly agree with jimmy on getting the birds to trust you.

Two year ago i purchased a marcells hen. she was a lovely calm hen but one day she flew over my head out the door and onto the fence. i sat for about 20 minuets

calling to her and she flew down to the front of the loft and followed my young birds into the loft. she has since bred me 3 club winners so she was worth having back. to this day she still follows me about the loft but has never been out since.

i think if the bird has trust for the owner and the loft your chances are greatly increased to get them back.

[Fair Play]

What happens when you are starting up and all your birds are from another loft or lofts - that would make it a bit more difficult.

[snowy]

if anyone knows how to break a bird,

its JIM!

[Guest TAMMY_1]

What happens when you are starting up and all your birds are from another loft or lofts - that would make it a bit more difficult.

 

WELL THATS HOW WE GOT MOST OF OURS, WE WERE GIVEN ABOUT 30 BIRDS AGED FROM A YEAR TO 4 YEARS OLD, LOFT WAS ABOUT HALF A MILE AWAY AND NEVER TOOK THAT LONG, ONLY HAD A BIT OF BOTHER WITH THE OLDESY ONES BUT WAS NOT VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK THE REST, ONCE WE HAD THEM THEY NEVER GOT FED IN THEIR OLD LOFT AND ONCE WE HAD THEM FOR A COUPLE DAYS THEY WERE NEVER LET BACK IN THEIR OLD LOFTS,EITHER ME OR MY SON WERE AT THE END TO CHASE THEM OFF THEIR ORIGINAL LOFTS, THEY SOON LEARNED WHERE TO COME TO,  TO BE FED AND WATERED,

[Back garden fancier]

On a similar line to clipping the wing, but less drastic. Try putting a rubber band round the flights on one wing, then let the bird walk around the garden a few times and feed it back in. Also similar but messy is fairy liquid on flights has same effect. Once they've been out and gone back in a few times, should be no bother?

[lordcornwallis]

thanks for the info the pigeon i lost was a belg hen i got at blackpool from peter kos . its already bred a 1st , but i think that the hen maybe had never been out its entire life , as i had it in for 8 month and when it went out it flew on to a garage and then a house roof and got further away and wouldnt look at my birds or my loft at all the last time i seen it was sunday night . so it must be dead as i had a telephone ring on its leg and you would think that if it went into another place the fancier would phone you  lc