Count to race day or marking night?

[Guest IB]

Looking to the longer races when the birds go away Tuesday or Wednesday night for a Friday or Saturday race.  Two questions:-

 

1) Is the bird sent sitting '10 days on eggs' or 'on a day old youngster' counted at marking night,  or on the day of the race?

 

2) Do you see any problem with a hen or cock going away on marking night feeding a day old youngster (their first youngster) and spending 2/3 days in the basket? For example is there any ill-effect caused by their milk?

 

 

[sammy]

1, some of my birds are sitting 8 days on marking night and some on ten  

2,never had any problems with them feeding a youngster on marking night it draws all the soft feeding from them normally its a five day old young bird they go on   good topic ian lets here some more  

[REDCHEQHEN]

Whilst I haven't that much experience - I wouldn't have thought it a good idea to send on a one day old youngster - they wouldn't have developed as big a bond as with - say a 5 day old youngster

 

I have in the past won a channel  race with a cock sent  feeding a 7 day youngster

[Guest shadow]

never sent them on a day old youngster 7 days yes

[Lennut Tar]

1, some of my birds are sitting 8 days on marking night and some on ten  

2,never had any problems with them feeding a youngster on marking night it draws all the soft feeding from them normally its a five day old young bird they go on   good topic ian lets here some more  

 

As we all know ?????   ;) , there are many ways to fire up most good pigeons etc, (Common knowledge). The real secret !!!!! is to find out what suits each individual pigeon on it's day of glory, & use it, again & again to gain a top result, & that's a wee bit more difficult, one could say  : : :.

Enjoy.

 

 

[Merlin]

1/ i would count it from marking night

 

2/ Have  had very good results with a day old youngster with hens especially,in overnight races,as for unused milk it possibily will cause a problem.

 

3/ Nesting position I find is best for both sexs in 2/3 days overnight races

[timbarra]

whatever motivation technique you use for any bird, remember that most birds never fall for the same trick 2 weeks in succesion !! you must constantly think of new ways each week to motivate.

 

10 day eggs then 4-5 day youngsters then maybe once again sitting 7 days on the next cycle. think about things and stick to it, dont chop and change.

 

As I only raced hens I know of some very good ways to motivate hens, In my last season before moving to my current address, which I have been at for 1 year, I entered 6 races and gained 3x1st, 1x3rd, 1x6th, 1x7th, and only entered 2 pigeons a week from a team of 5 !!  also never lost a pigeon. winning all pools twice!!

 

These results were against widow cocks from 71 miles to 200 miles. !!

 

you dont need alot of pigeons and just need to motivate correctly.

 

spencer

[Guest Paulo]

banty eggs sitting on then until they chip

[Guest IB]

LT - Understand and agree with what you say, but doesn't the pigeon need to win first before you know its best nest condition, otherwise how can you tell?

 

Following members advice from last year, I have 4 x 2 year olds for 560 miles at the end of June, and they won't be allowed to raise any youngsters just now. 3 hens and 1 cock, all with very light roadwork last year - cock & hen (paired last year) went to 180 miles, and the other 2 hens are latebreds, trained not raced last year (3/4 training races to 80 miles).

 

So following advice given here, setting them down on a 5/7 day old youngster at marking night seems the way to go. Any thoughts on roadwork they might need this year? I plan to have the 4 of them at Newbury 330 miles at beginning of June then rest them till the big one.

[sammy]

 

As we all know ?????   ;) , there are many ways to fire up most good pigeons etc, (Common knowledge). The real secret !!!!! is to find out what suits each individual pigeon on it's day of glory, & use it, again & again to gain a top result, & that's a wee bit more difficult, one could say  : : :.

Enjoy.

 

agree with what you say lennut but we are talking about 500+ miles and i am of the opinion that one win in a year from that distance is sufficient and can be repeated the following year with the same condition ;)and pigeon  

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

 

As we all know ?????   ;) , there are many ways to fire up most good pigeons etc, (Common knowledge). The real secret !!!!! is to find out what suits each individual pigeon on it's day of glory, & use it, again & again to gain a top result, & that's a wee bit more difficult, one could say  : : :.

Enjoy.

 

good man lenny!! have to say in my opinion ou are spot on no matter wot distance

 

[Lennut Tar]

good man lenny!! have to say in my opinion ou are spot on no matter wot distance

 

Well !!!!!!, Just remember thou   :P it's a damm site easier, for many of us ???????  ;D ;D ;D here, to talk about it etc. Than to do the yard yakka  :'( :'( :'( to achieve a top result at the end of the day. No matter what distance, & the loosers, will always out number the winners.

Enjoy.