pjc Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Spin cycle, as far as i'm concerned young bird racing is education, young birds is only one season and the birds have another few seasons to compete. If they are burnt out as young birds then they will be finished. personally have very little interest in yb racing and call it the silly season although I do feel all youngbirds do need at least one race. Phil
Guest spin cycle Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Spin cycle, as far as i'm concerned young bird racing is education, young birds is only one season and the birds have another few seasons to compete. If they are burnt out as young birds then they will be finished. personally have very little interest in yb racing and call it the silly season although I do feel all youngbirds do need at least one race. Phil as usual i agree with you. trouble is we are a minority.
pjc Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 i think thrashing young birds is short sighted, a consistant young bird will make a better yearling etc than one thats been thrashed and had a couple of wins.
swilcox Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 I think has shown why on the Kitchen thread.
Guest chrisss Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 I think has shown why on the Kitchen thread. yep sad but true, a stunning example of how to encourage people into the sport > > >
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 My vote went to "it's not cool to their friends" Have 3 boys myself and none of them have shown much interest in the pigeons, my oldest boy is more intrested in going to school with a full bottle of aftershave on rather than smelling of pigeons. Maybe in the future i could possibly see that changing but at no time would i forcefully encourage them to help around the loft but i will always have the door open for them if they change there mind of thier own back.
Guest chrisss Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 its a sad fact of life that pigeon fancying is seen as an olds mans sport/hobby
Whats it called Cumbernauld Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Chrisss sad but true,I am an optimist's though, and think given the right strategy and leadership, it could be turned around Cheers here to better days mate Rab Smith
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Chrisss sad but true,I am an optimist's though, and think given the right strategy and leadership, it could be turned around Cheers here to better days mate Rab Smith Yes we are a amature sport but when it comes to promoting the sport we will have to take a more proffessional approach in saving the pigeon sport, i have said for a long time now there is a chunk of the population that no little of the sport or how to get started in the sport. cheers
Guest chrisss Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 what we need as a uk based sport is a good pr man [a max clifford wannabe?] some one good on "the telly" who can dump the cloth cap/wippets/light ale image, we as a sport are in the 21st century but according to "joe public" we all still work in coal mines, sing in funny choirs and beat our wifes at closing time ,all this despite raising lots for charity [which no one outside the sport ever gets to hear about]its time we started to blow our own trumpet because no one will do it for us,and yes the rpra has a trailer but if most clubs have problems getting enough guys to mark/hang around on a friday what chance of running a trailer at a show in some school
pjc Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 The RPRA seem reluctant to appoint a PR man/woman for some reason! It maybe that again it needs to go through clubs then region then council a proposition to create such a post! Any volounteers?
Whats it called Cumbernauld Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 We do so much for charity,but it should begin at home. A couple of guys going round schools, will do more for the future of our sport in a week, than all the money given to good causes in a year. These things can and should be done, all we need is the right leadership which will take us in the right direction Think about it Cheers Rab
pjc Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 There are a lot of fanciers who do go to schools with birds and do a talk as we often see the pics in the BHW etc but this alone is not enough. We need a paid person who is dedicated to the task, a difficult task but one that needs adressing. Phil
doo Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 We do so much for charity,but it should begin at home. A couple of guys going round schools, will do more for the future of our sport in a week, than all the money given to good causes in a year. These things can and should be done, all we need is the right leadership which will take us in the right direction Think about it Cheers Rab I was asked some uears ago to go to a local primary school with birds & do a small talk on the birds. It was great the responce I got from the kids, they asked hundereds of questions & seemed really interested. Sadly nowdays everything is all red tape & think it would be much harder for this sort of thing to happen, rules for this that & the next thing. Stevie
THE FIFER Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 doo racer, the RPRA have a mobile unit available for shows etc purchased for this purpose. If you know of a show or fete then contact Peter Bryant for the unit. Phil the SHU has a mobile loft as well somewhere???
Guest Paulo Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 My vote went to "it's not cool to their friends" Have 3 boys myself and none of them have shown much interest in the pigeons, my oldest boy is more intrested in going to school with a full bottle of aftershave on rather than smelling of pigeons. Maybe in the future i could possibly see that changing but at no time would i forcefully encourage them to help around the loft but i will always have the door open for them if they change there mind of thier own back. They'll come back to it same with me I was sick with them when I was a young un windy days down the allotment when I wanted to play with me transformers toys lol
Guest Paulo Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 what we need as a uk based sport is a good pr man [a max clifford wannabe?] some one good on "the telly" who can dump the cloth cap/wippets/light ale image, we as a sport are in the 21st century but according to "joe public" we all still work in coal mines, sing in funny choirs and beat our wifes at closing time ,all this despite raising lots for charity [which no one outside the sport ever gets to hear about]its time we started to blow our own trumpet because no one will do it for us,and yes the rpra has a trailer but if most clubs have problems getting enough guys to mark/hang around on a friday what chance of running a trailer at a show in some school We still do those things in Durham lol nah the sport does have an image problem through the amount of urine taking I get at work beggers belief
Guest Paulo Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 We do so much for charity,but it should begin at home. A couple of guys going round schools, will do more for the future of our sport in a week, than all the money given to good causes in a year. These things can and should be done, all we need is the right leadership which will take us in the right direction Think about it Cheers Rab Damn right we gave thousands to charity and get no respect for it
andy del Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 i have a 7 yr old boy who is keen ican train em feed em but cant build a loft or afford one so hell have to wait awile
harky Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 maybe if we could convince priests and ministers to enlighten their flock on the sport of pigeons we might get some where .after all there word is god is it not ;D ;D ;D ;D
Lennut Tar Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 maybe if we could convince priests and ministers to enlighten their flock on the sport of pigeons we might get some where .after all there word is god is it not ;D ;D ;D ;D You are a brave man Harky ;D ;D ;D here. I have the smartest one of the lot etc, : : : setting up his tables, at this very moment :D up above ??????, getting ready for a pigeon moot "Re Eyesign". All should help the cause !!!!!!!! :P one would imagine. Enjoy.
ch pied Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 what we need as a uk based sport is a good pr man [a max clifford wannabe?] some one good on "the telly" who can dump the cloth cap/wippets/light ale image, we as a sport are in the 21st century but according to "joe public" we all still work in coal mines, sing in funny choirs and beat our wifes at closing time ,all this despite raising lots for charity [which no one outside the sport ever gets to hear about]its time we started to blow our own trumpet because no one will do it for us,and yes the rpra has a trailer but if most clubs have problems getting enough guys to mark/hang around on a friday what chance of running a trailer at a show in some schoolyes , the max clifford type a real go getter / spin doctor , all the shilling's that we give to the good cause's , stopped for 5 year's ,and put our own house in order first , call it a fighting fund if you wish , but above all let's give something back to the fancier , at the moment we are all splinterd into faction's , NWHU , SHU , RPRA , WHU , IHU , and the sub division's with in the said union's , all with their own agenda's , and the in fighting that is going on , we do have the confedertion of racing union's , its like the UN (NO TEETH) results on tele-text, that would be a start , don't bend over for DEFRA every time they shout fowl , media drive on BOP let the public see what their funding , the sport is dying on its feet , ITS UP TO YOU THE FANCIER
ch pied Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 sorry folk's , in the last rant i left out ,the NPA & the NTU
Guest CS Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 There is a programme in the U.S by Linda (redroselofts) doing a help beginners is a very great idea, has anyone heard about this?.
Merlin Posted April 2, 2008 Report Posted April 2, 2008 yes , the max clifford type a real go getter / spin doctor , all the shilling's that we give to the good cause's , stopped for 5 year's ,and put our own house in order first , call it a fighting fund if you wish , but above all let's give something back to the fancier , at the moment we are all splinterd into faction's , NWHU , SHU , RPRA , WHU , IHU , and the sub division's with in the said union's , all with their own agenda's , and the in fighting that is going on , we do have the confedertion of racing union's , its like the UN (NO TEETH) results on tele-text, that would be a start , don't bend over for DEFRA every time they shout fowl , media drive on BOP let the public see what their funding , the sport is dying on its feet , ITS UP TO YOU THE FANCIER The above points by Chg Pied addresses probably what are most wrong with our Sport,and chief culprits for cause is mainly ourselves, we appear to be quite contented with our game/sport which is beset by a multitude of issues ,sitting back,bickering constantly with irrelevent rubbish ,all the while our sport/game which in broader spectrum of things,has about as much appeal as any other underground sport,if we dont wake up and smell the coffee,pretty soon there wont be an issue regarding youngsters coming on board,there wont be a sport/game left,it appears as body we are totally incapable of viewing the big picture,sadly it appears those at the top table it appears are incapable,of even holding what they inherited,as for revamping,way beyond their mindset,Ch Pied is right,YOU just aint listening,or YOU just dont give a damn.
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