Sun and moon both visible

[Novice]

This week I noticed both sun and moon visible in the sky during day hours.

Some time ago I read that this condition can give rise to poor returns when racing.

Has anyone else heard this and do they have any further information or views on the subject?

[Guest]

was at my club buying feeding the other night and two of the older members were talking about the very same thing,one said that it was not good to race pigeons in these circumstances.

[Novice]

That is also my feeling Vince.

 

Are you suggesting I am past it to have this opinion?

[Guest]

That is also my feeling Vince.

 

Are you suggesting I am past it to have this opinion?

 

No not at all mate,just was the first time i have heard any one make comment on the subject.and being a old guy think ones about 72 thought the threory,must have been about for some time, as he said he was told when he was just a boy.

[Guest IB]

I've noticed it all week here too. Also had a 20 mile trainer 'in it' this week, and birds came OK. There was a thread on this some time ago, some members expressed similar views. My own opinion is the birds will see the moon all or most of the time.

 

Sun and moon are always in the sky together, its just that we earthbound folks normally can't see the moon during daylight.  The reason for this is said to be that most of the time the moon is obscured from our view by clouds in the sky.  The sky has been pretty clear by early evening all this week.

 

 

[Novice]

IB thanks for that.

Where I was coming from was if this condition really caused losses and it was predictable then it would be wise to avoid racing in such conditions.

 

You could be correct that the birds see the moon constantly.

[DOVEScot]

It has all to do with gravatational fields due to planets alignments, the gravity of the eath is just under 10, the gravity of the moon is just under 1.7 where the sun is about 240. This is what affects out tides, so if it can pull the earth to tip the worlds water then if may have a lot of other effects on nature

You have to take into account the lines of the other planets in our solar system that effect out planet's gravity, mercury's gravity is 3.8. jupiter is 23.6, pluto is only 0.7 all these affect us in some way

I think when you see both the sun and the moon near each other during the day you are getting gravity pulls from both, thus it may be affecting the birds homing instinct, bearing in mind what we do to birds when racing them is not natural :-/

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

No not at all mate,just was the first time i have heard any one make comment on the subject.and being a old guy think ones about 72 thought the threory,must have been about for some time, as he said he was told when he was just a boy.

 

I to heard this many years ago and have experienced bad races  when the two have been visible at the same time.