600-800 mile birds race or home

[p charlton]

do birds that are breed to race 600-800 miles race or just home and can they score in the sprint races

[Guest shadow]

not very often two different type of birds

[schouwman71]

not very often two different type of birds

 

ill agree on that 1.

[ChrisMaidment08]

m spencer says its down to food     spangles distance  but will score short  ones

[ChrisMaidment08]

2004  yearling  reported in polang wanted to keep   back home  3 months later how fars that

[Guest shadow]

2004  yearling  reported in polang wanted to keep   back home  3 months later how fars that

not the same as a bird flying 6 to 800 miles in race time any bird can fly longer distances and take its time to come home

 

 

[Guest]

racing , the day or next day,homeing ,depending on the day, three days and beyond.but most fanciers that take part in this sort of race are not seending homers,they are sending the best they have all of the time, this will be the only race this bird will compete in all season,so no top class long distance fancier will send homers to these races,they are all racing

[ChrisMaidment08]

i  agree but  san sibastean on day with storm at home end is

[p charlton]

Nearly little bit under the 600mls  had hen raced and won inland and then went on to win 1st BICC Lourdes  8th Int Hens 124th Open Int

thats some doing ive had birds breed inland winers and then breed Niort winers whats about 540miles infact one son won a couple of inland races and won  Rennes, Nants and Niort  in the same year not for me though   but breed me some good birds this cock was a lean boar sprint lines i think what breeding was your bird rose soz about the spelling lol

 

 

[p charlton]

She was a burgher hen that i bought at an auction for 8 pound have to be honest was 23yrs ago so dont know how much that would be now still got birds going back to her winning now

thanks things have changed the bird i am on about was a 92 bird. the lad who had this pigeon was a greedy mupit. this bird won again the year after 3 or 4 times. this lad thougt he won the lacs combine so he toke this bird to his house for 4 days  in a baskit.when he found out the bird was 2nd it was back on the pen and he sent it to niort never to be seen again i got the sire to this cock for nowt b4 the bird was raced lol

 

[Merlin]

Of course they can,maybe not in the same season,but if you set them up for it,with correct feeding,motivation,they can oblige on occassions, and will be capable of winning at shorter distances,what is a sprint race,is it down to velocity,or distance.i.e. two Channel Hens 1st and 2nd club at 125 mls,vel 1865/1863  last w/e with lots of Widowers behind them,excuse the pun,dont pigeon hole your birds,they are capable of surprising you on many occasions,on land ,good system/motivation is invaluable,low velocities,distance/hard races a game gutsy pigeon is invaluable

[Lennut Tar]

Think there are probably quite a few birds capable of doing it but you probably dont see it very often because a lot of people tend to either stick to sprinting or go for distance racing and lot of birds for 600-800mls wouldnt even see a sprint race had the odd few that have raced inland and gone onto race upto 550 but i think there are very few that woud go that extra bit further

 

Rose !!!!!!!! much of what you say I agree with etc. But to me ?????? a true distance man/woman has a different character about them in my view, to one of the sprint specialist etc. When one sits back quitely for most of the season  ;D ;D ;D listening to all the words of wisdom   ;) from them. Knowing in your own mind what lyes ahead & that your patience will pay of in the end, (Most times anyway) when they are long gone  :'( :'( :'(. The satisfaction is immense in my view, & the admiration which you have for your birds when they have had to battle to get home to there perch & master is magic & in all my time in this sport etc, I've never been able to get that feeling in a spint race.

Enjoy.  

 

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

I will be able to tell you a lot more about this after this weekend I have a bird that has won at 100 miles this year he was 4th last week on a 200 and has won a 500 all of these this season and he will be my 1st pick bird on the 600 this week !!!

[billy wilson]

best of luck slugmonkey

                             billy

[just ask me]

of course they can but not on a regular basis different animal all together i race sprint and there is no way id win on a consistent basis if i had 600 mile pigeons are u talking in a good fed or national as if u are racing in a good competive fed there is no way ud win on a regular basis u will hear of great pigeons that put in unbelievable performances on both lets say 150 to 800 but very rare and one more thing when u hear this ask ure self about how many birds and the general competition in the area could be these perfomaces are down too bad competition always look at velocities have seen these birds but when u really look into it there can be other reasons for the win just look at other sports the great trainer aiden o brien  and Micheal Stout wouldn't put there guineas winners which is short distance racing in to the grand national not a hope only the real great pigeons can win in top competition in both distances

hope i didnt bore u

[carlsberg]

i don't have a platform to race from but if i did then they would race from whereever i sent them to race from

[p charlton]

of course they can but not on a regular basis different animal all together i race sprint and there is no way id win on a consistent basis if i had 600 mile pigeons are u talking in a good fed or national as if u are racing in a good competive fed there is no way ud win on a regular basis u will hear of great pigeons that put in unbelievable performances on both lets say 150 to 800 but very rare and one more thing when u hear this ask ure self about how many birds and the general competition in the area could be these perfomaces are down too bad competition always look at velocities have seen these birds but when u really look into it there can be other reasons for the win just look at other sports the great trainer aiden o brien  and Micheal Stout wouldn't put there guineas winners which is short distance racing in to the grand national not a hope only the real great pigeons can win in top competition in both distances

hope i didnt bore u

not at all i need all the help i can get ive always flown sprint birds and widowhod. with the pigeon lung the loft will be open (once i move) so i am thinking of the long races. i am joining the bicc and the nfc ive never flown natral b4. a good mate said i wont handle being behind every week and when the lads at the club start thaking the mick i will go back to sprinting thats not what i want to do. is its best just to see them races as trainers to get the birds ready for the long ones or give them the expriance they need   does anyone know of any books or dvds on 600-800 mile racing cheers

 

[allwhites]

Would you care if your bird flew like the wind or walked if you won a 600/800 miler, i know i wouldnt, and so what if he/she just happened to win a 100 miler on the way, it has happened time and time again.

Wot wud u call the bird that did that multi-tasked, lol.

[p charlton]

Would you care if your bird flew like the wind or walked if you won a 600/800 miler, i know i wouldnt, and so what if he/she just happened to win a 100 miler on the way, it has happened time and time again.

Wot wud u call the bird that did that multi-tasked, lol.

yeh lol i would want them to win the 100mile more 1st the better a win a win for me lol

 

[just ask me]

man asked a question pity u see it as a laugh i never said it doesent happen where did i say that i just gave my opion and the man seemed to like what i had to say i said on a regullar basis

[Michael J Burden]

Once they have done the 600 plus races they probably will not do well at the shorter ones espeially if they are competing against specialist sprinters.

 

Before they have been that fat I see no reason why not, my 1st section 663miles Pau NFC won an inland race as a yearling then flew 500 on the day a week later being beaten to 2nd by a loft mate.

 

That was dutch belgium origin but the old ENGLISH/SCOTISH type birds are probably not likely to win short races.

 

Just my view.

[Guest IB]

not at all i need all the help i can get ive always flown sprint birds and widowhod. with the pigeon lung the loft will be open (once i move) so i am thinking of the long races. i am joining the bicc and the nfc ive never flown natral b4. a good mate said i wont handle being behind every week and when the lads at the club start thaking the mick i will go back to sprinting thats not what i want to do. is its best just to see them races as trainers to get the birds ready for the long ones or give them the expriance they need   does anyone know of any books or dvds on 600-800 mile racing cheers

 

I think your mates might be right on the first part at least. I'd like to have one of these 'win from 60-600 miles' families, but I haven't - maybe the birds weren't good enough. Or maybe I wasn't good enough. Either way, end result is that after 4 years I do not have a core group of birds that have either flown the distance, or bred birds to fly it.

 

I chose long distance, but have never got to a long distance race yet because until this year I seem to lose them in Federation races - just throwing my birds away applying sprinter methods, down the road 2-3 times a week, racing every week, and they responded by disappearing like snow off a dyke in sunshine, with the result come the Nationals, I'd have nothing left to send.

 

So it is very much a back seat job in the Fed this year, holding the club result sheet up from at or near the bottom, week after week. The Fed program is 2 weeks away from finishing - but the real racing for me is just beginning, and for once I have birds to go to them.  

 

 

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

IB You got this spot on.Distance pigeons treated as sprinters will simply no perform mate.

 

I was just saying this to a new start on here the other day you have to be prepared to be at the bottom of the sheet.But if what you say is true, and you have the birds mate, then these tables will reverse with a vengence.

 

You if your distance would be well advised not to burn up you young birds they are your future steady as you go mate.

 

Rab Smith

[Ronnie]

The more i read articles like this the more i am convinced you need two teams of racing birds to compete at all levels.One team for club and federation and one team for the big races and the distance.

Also what constitutes a long distance race is it mileage or weather conditions and time on the wing.

What i am aiming at is if you can get a good weather prediction and send pigeons 600 miles in a blow home would that be the same as a 3-400 mile race in normal conditions?And vice versa.

[Guest slugmonkey]

this bird got 4th on the 600 ( day bird ) he then got 2nd on a 200 ( this week ) this race set a new club speed record his velocity was 2497.198 I think this bird has won 7 diplomas this year and won 3 races of the 7

I think you can breed an all around pigeon the bird that got 2nd on the 600 mile race for me broke the 100 mile club record earlier in the year both of these birds are yearlings and both were bred from birds that I bred and raced and stocked

Bill Bonwell once told me the only reason our birds don't do  stuff like this is because we dont expect them to !!