Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 i have 5 yearlings i want to send to Fougeres next week ,4 cocks and 1 hen all will be sitting 10 days approx .3 had Lessay last week ,but were slow to return ,not fit ,not flyingmuch due to nest condition .3 cocks have flown every race ,1 had 4 races ,hen had 1 race . i know there are many answers and some questions ,looking for guidance and opinions , thanks in advance . andy.
fletch Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 if they aint flying enough cant you fit some training into them
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 if they aint flying enough cant you fit some training into themthats my intention for the coming week , all being well , do you think thatll be enough ? hopefully fletch ,theyll have 2 x 25 milers ? andy.
fletch Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 thats my intention for the coming week , all being well , do you think thatll be enough ? hopefully fletch ,theyll have 2 x 25 milers ? andy. that should be ok, maybe monday and wednesday if you are basketng on thursday.
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 that should be ok, maybe monday and wednesday if you are basketng on thursday.we are basketing on thurs ,i have also purchased some energy plus (versel laga) in the hope that may help ? andy.
fletch Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 we are basketing on thurs ,i have also purchased some energy plus (versel laga) in the hope that may help ? andy. yes mate this will help, we use the same one
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 yes mate this will help, we use the same one any further tips or guidance gratefully received . andy.
BK ROCKETS Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 i dont think i'd be sending them you've said there not fit in my books 2 x 25 mile tosses and energy treatment doesnt sort a not fit problem 2 or 3 weeks of training tosses will sort it. ps my thoughts only
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 i dont think i'd be sending them you've said there not fit in my books 2 x 25 mile tosses and energy treatment doesnt sort a not fit problem 2 or 3 weeks of training tosses will sort it. ps my thoughts only thanks for the post BK , they are not fit enough ,i should have put ,up to 180 mile southcoast from me they wer 5/6 or 7 mins behind winner ,but over the water last week ,1 1/2 hours behind ,but was a sticky race many good birds lost (although my 3 yearlings made it ok). andy.
Heinz-57 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 i think its all about motovation get that right your half way there
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 i think its all about motovation get that right your half way there tried everything ive read about ,just hoping the 10 day on eggs may help them . andy.
wayne77 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Andy Lessay 2 was hard race to judge a bird....did you notice lots of different names on fed sheet...from the 3 races in I had 13 from 13. I would say you have them set up well(better than Lessay 2 ) so personally if race looks good send with some confidence.....but as I would tell everyone...if sending whole team then be cautious as one bad race can ruin you for 2 years. You send this week Andy? I have 6 in.
Guest numpty01 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 to get fit bird by training is not right if they were not fit to come back on good time from race??? why ???? feed rest then build up is the clue to fit birds when you think they are fit are they just fit round home when you toss birds thats when they show faults in condition are they covering disrtance in good time are they coming home and sitting about or home and tearing round lots things point to bird being fit but to train after races cos youer not happy is not the way to go ?miss race get food right exercise right let them tell you they are right then race or face loseing them or ruining themn for season
Guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 blimey Wayne (night owl) ,no have not sent this weekend , decided to rest them , i want to test them not mis treat them ,(numpty please take note) . have 1 yearling cock coming well anyway (hes been stopped) others will go next week and hope fully after a good rest ,good food and a few tosses ,they will return with some experience for next season . andy.
Guest numpty01 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 blimey Wayne (night owl) ,no have not sent this weekend , decided to rest them , i want to test them not mis treat them ,(numpty please take note) . have 1 yearling cock coming well anyway (hes been stopped) others will go next week and hope fully after a good rest ,good food and a few tosses ,they will return with some experience for next season . andy. and thats the way to be they reward with time
Roland Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 i have 5 yearlings i want to send to Fougeres next week ,4 cocks and 1 hen all will be sitting 10 days approx .3 had Lessay last week ,but were slow to return ,not fit ,not flyingmuch due to nest condition .3 cocks have flown every race ,1 had 4 races ,hen had 1 race . i know there are many answers and some questions ,looking for guidance and opinions , thanks in advance . andy. If not flying enough .... whatever that means, and what standard, I'd watch them very closely. Could well be that they have toxin in their blood. Worst thing then is enforced flying! Their very demeanour should tell you the sytate of their mind and body. If alert and winking when you first enter the loft. Do the take off with arc necks and clapping and with zest? etc. etc. But me, from the sounds of it would leave them home.
Guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 If not flying enough .... whatever that means, and what standard, I'd watch them very closely. Could well be that they have toxin in their blood. Worst thing then is enforced flying! Their very demeanour should tell you the sytate of their mind and body. If alert and winking when you first enter the loft. Do the take off with arc necks and clapping and with zest? etc. etc. But me, from the sounds of it would leave them home.Roland ,how can i tell if they have toxins in blood ? and then how is it dealt with ? today (not raced this week) was day4 of coxoid treatment ,they have looked perkier after 2 days of treatment .bath tommorow ,hopefull to train mon/wed . andy.
Guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 why have you treated for coxoid?first time ever , was suggested to me by an old hand who called at the loft a week back . (when this man speaks ,you listen and act ,what he doesnt know aint worth remembering ) so i am told ,trusted his guidance . please dont pick holes , constructive critisicm is welcome tho . andy.
pjc Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 not picking holes but as you will have read many times its not a good idea to treat blind, if you suspect a problem then test and treat accordingly!
Guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 not picking holes but as you will have read many times its not a good idea to treat blind, if you suspect a problem then test and treat accordingly! i know exactly what u r saying(paul isnit) treating blind ,last year i set up an account with an avain vet ,and i am no ramany but knew the answer before the lab reports came thru . i trust this mans opinion and acted on it ,with marked visible results ,i may be making a further mistake by sending ,but time will tell ,thanks for the replies . andy.
pjc Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Good luck with them and don't forget to give them a boost this week! Phil
Guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Posted June 13, 2009 Good luck with them and don't forget to give them a boost this week! Philthanks Phil , a boost ? inst that a 1970 s chocolate bar ?? andy.
Guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Posted June 21, 2009 update .... well the only thing i couldnt account for was a smash . only 3 club fanciers had 3 birds each , the other 4 (myself included) are still waiting on birds ?? a lot of empty boxes accross both feds i am told . andy.
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