Ronnie Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 would you put to much in store on young bird performance's ? the reason i'm asking is ive a young bird that won the first race and last two weeks has been over ten mins in front of my first bird but not been clocked cos the little barsteward wont come down.I was just wondering on peoples opinions and how they judge the youngbirds for next years race team or would some people put young straight to stock bear in mind its a hen and i am only going to race the cocks from next year. I will breed of it then use it as a widowhood hen next year for the cocks but would like to know how people grade their young birds. Sorry if ive waffled on but i'm tired.
Guest shadow Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 once had a young blue pied hen was my clock bird from every young bird race then did nothing the rest of its life was always getting lost but came home under its own power so I do not hold much faith in young bird performances
wings Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 once had a young blue pied hen was my clock bird from every young bird race then did nothing the rest of its life was always getting lost but came home under its own power so I do not hold much faith in young bird performances i second that all gthe young birds that have done well for me don't seem to do very well as yearlings but yearlings that do well seem to continue to do well, just my oppinion not nessacerally correct.
Ronnie Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Posted August 2, 2009 i'm of the same opinion as you two just interested in other peoples views
fletch Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 have to agree with this that young birds dont carry on well with there performances as yearlings, my dad does put this down to the darkness system as he says years ago when the young were natural the good young birds did carry some form forward, maybe this maybe a fault with darkness system, who knows i know some one will point out there performances with darkness birds carrying on, this is just my opinion,
Ronnie Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Posted August 2, 2009 have to agree with this that young birds dont carry on well with there performances as yearlings, my dad does put this down to the darkness system as he says years ago when the young were natural the good young birds did carry some form forward, maybe this maybe a fault with darkness system, who knows i know some one will point out there performances with darkness birds carrying on, this is just my opinion, Could it be a case of the darkness making all birds perform to a good standard ?.Ive allways been told youngbirds is down to a system Oldbirds is down to good birds
terry mccarthy Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 darkness never effects my birds as yearlings in fact i think there better natural youngsters in my eyes are no good you have to stop them after a certain amount of races and then they stop learning weres the darkies have got the season to get under there belt
fletch Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Could it be a case of the darkness making all birds perform to a good standard ?.Ive allways been told youngbirds is down to a system Oldbirds is down to good birds that maybe right, dad has found that some darkness birds do find there good form has 2 year olds if they have a easy year as yearlings, but everyone hasnt the time to let there yearlings fill out and have a easy year.
Roland Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Know some that - like me lol - that seldom bother to even train y/b's. Some have first race ever Saints as yearlings, or Pau as 2 yo's. Though I don't do this.... yet! Others trained them up fro 300yards and then 400 yards further only to 20 mile iles. Gary - Best flyer I ever knew any where just had the ame for all birds, young and old alike 20 miles first every and last chuck ... one season went 50 miles twice and said 'If they can home from 50 miles, then they can home from any where#! When reminded of this he said 'Yeah soryy, was mistaken, should have been 20 miles'.
Roland Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Had a great Thurso race 2006, just sent 10 to Thurso. 7 in top ten 1 2 3 one club only day birds, then 2,3, only 3 day birds in another club .(-4th &5th but didn't bother to time them in.) Now the Mother was a late bred born September, won the Scottish averages on her own the very next season. Done well every year there after. Lost her Thurso last year in that smash. But a Good pigeon is just that, a good pigeon. A fancier has the same yard stick, and mostly they tend to compliment each other.
blaz Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 had a yb that won the nom in our club each week also won it each week as a yearling.then again i had 2 cocks out the same nest did not strike a blow as yb,s as yearling they won 3 races a pice.
Guest Owen Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 I have a fool proof way of grading my birds. I make a note of what they win and keep the best based on their performances. I ignore everything else. Eyesign, no. Wing theory, no. Colour of plumage, no. Parentage, no. Sibling results, no. What the breeder has said, no. Nothing but performance for me. If I have to decide on which to keep when I allocate the nest boxes to the widowhood cocks, it is performance again but I also take their age into account. I will always favour the younger birds. I don't find that birds over 3 years old are all that good any more. They seem to become too crafty.
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