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If it breeds a good pigeon that keeps winning.... Needs to produce the goods to earn a place for me

 

Agree of course. Many of us, and some very good flyers don't have a stock loft. - I have at the moment one.  So if at retiring age of say 4 or 5, I know some go longer but as a cut of point say, and you still have it obviously, then A. it has told you it's worth and merit as a racer, or should have, and some inkling as to a breeder.

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