ken Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 hi i have the chance to train my birds from about 10ml or 12ml every day on the line of flight what would you do +would you still leave them out for the full hourer or get them in when they came back they dont fly well around home as they can land on the house roof when they whant
Guest pigeon82 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 its upto you but my birds fly well around the house and they stay out as long as they want but when im training i treat it like racing as soon as they they get back my wife is waiting to get them in as quick as possible as i try to have them in as fast as possible which is what you want on race day
pigeonpete Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 Get em gone mate, sitting on house roof is no use whatsoever, Wish i could get mine down the road every day, If i could get an hours and halfs flying time in every day that would be ideal. All the best :-)
Dod Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 Ive been told its better to let them out in the morning for a fly then train them in the afternoon and when they come back feed and lock up the loft.
Guest pigeon82 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 Ive been told its better to let them out in the morning for a fly then train them in the afternoon and when they come back feed and lock up the loft. i know every1 says plenty of exercise good but in my opinion once a day is enough if im training they get basketed let out around 1030 ish or earlier weather permitting if i dont get training only around the house but thats my veiws tho every1 different but i would not let them out twice a day definately not but thats me
blackdog Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 hi ken, are we on about y/birds or old birds mate, if old then personally i dont think you need to let them out before you go training mate but if young birds get them out before they go to take the daftness out of them and they will break better also get them in right away when they come home then leave till next day, routine
adam owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 get them off the house roof for starters get them hungry out in out in ect even if they fly for 2mins long as they out in out in thas fine then build them back up keep a routine but the ten mile toss is good in the mornings as you can exersize them for one hour in nights if u feed say ounce and half feed the ounce in mornings half at night this way they will exersize there full hour at night and race home from training and come straght in in mornings hope it helps
gulkie Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 ken.what do u fly ie [widowhood roundabout natural] are they feeding young ;sitting;or not paired yet ;do they look good ;all these factors come into it,but they should not be sitting about roofs.
TREBLE D Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 hi ken as you can see their are a lot of different ideas we fly roundabout and the cocks go out in morning then sent 13 miles most afternoons straight back in fed ready for next day,
dwh Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 hi ken as you can see their are a lot of different ideas we fly roundabout and the cocks go out in morning then sent 13 miles most afternoons straight back in fed ready for next day, WE FLY R/DABOUT BUT TREAT THE COCKS AND HENS DIFFERENTLY CK'S GET 1HR MORN AND NIGHT HENS SAME EXCEPT WE LIKETHE HENS TO GET AS MUCH TRAINING AS POSSIBLE COKS GET 2 TOSSES WKLY
ken Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Posted January 25, 2010 i fly roundabout when i say they land on the roofs where my loft is there is a house about 15 ft away from the loft so when they have had a nuf they go to the roof they might fly for 10 or 15 mins or longer but as i said when they have had anuf they land on the roof and it drives me mad so i was thinking about trainning them every day im a taxi driver and iv getting a job on the line of flight for a year so ill get paid for taking them away aswell its about 15ml i go twice a day mornning and night
pigeonscout Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 Fly them round the house to let of some steam then basket them up for the training toss. A lot of fanciers train their birds to home but you need to teach them to race home not just fly home. When birds are put into the basket always have something in the loft they will race home to. Once the penny drops that basket means something nice in the loft they will race home. To stop your birds going onto the house roof get a balloon and tie bit of string to it and at the other end a weight of some kind and put it up on the roof the balloon will blow about the roof keeping them off. My mate has rigged a pulley so he can pull the balloon up and down as you would a flag. I use the garden hose as I live in a single story. Once they learn as young birds the only safe place to land is the landing board or in the loft it stays with them the rest of their life. As soon as the birds touch down call them in the is something not right with birds that do not want to fly. I found that if the young birds are sticky and not wanting to fly put them on 75% barley and 25% flax seed for 2 weeks after 7 to 10 days on this they will fly for hours.
adam owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 Fly them round the house to let of some steam then basket them up for the training toss. A lot of fanciers train their birds to home but you need to teach them to race home not just fly home. When birds are put into the basket always have something in the loft they will race home to. Once the penny drops that basket means something nice in the loft they will race home. To stop your birds going onto the house roof get a balloon and tie bit of string to it and at the other end a weight of some kind and put it up on the roof the balloon will blow about the roof keeping them off. My mate has rigged a pulley so he can pull the balloon up and down as you would a flag. I use the garden hose as I live in a single story. Once they learn as young birds the only safe place to land is the landing board or in the loft it stays with them the rest of their life. As soon as the birds touch down call them in the is something not right with birds that do not want to fly. I found that if the young birds are sticky and not wanting to fly put them on 75% barley and 25% flax seed for 2 weeks after 7 to 10 days on this they will fly for hours. whats flax seed
pigeonscout Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 whats flax seed Flax seed = linseed
adam owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 cheers whats do then the extra linseed as dupuritive has it in it or do u just feed barley
Guest mick bowler Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 No amount of flying around the house can be as good for birds (especially YBs) as miles on the wing. "Training" is just that, training them to race, so always mimic race conditions. Lib, home and in!
Guest Owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 ken, you will get nowhere at all allowing your pigeons on the roof. 15 ft or not. You should follow what Adam Owen has told you because he knows what he is doing. Regarding the training flights. As Adam has said, train either in the morning or the evening and exercise the other end of the day. Your birds must trap, when they are told, and fly until you call them in. If they do not do as they are told they should go without their food. By the time the races come around they should be on the ball and so well drilled that the amount of food will not matter. I can honestly say that if you behaved like that around here you would not win a bladder.
adam owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 ken, you will get nowhere at all allowing your pigeons on the roof. 15 ft or not. You should follow what Adam Owen has told you because he knows what he is doing. Regarding the training flights. As Adam has said, train either in the morning or the evening and exercise the other end of the day. Your birds must trap, when they are told, and fly until you call them in. If they do not do as they are told they should go without their food. By the time the races come around they should be on the ball and so well drilled that the amount of food will not matter. I can honestly say that if you behaved like that around here you would not win a bladder. thanks for that owen
adam owen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 also the ten 12 mile mark is a good breaking point at home end u should try chucking them up in ones and twos great this is it builds confidance in them and they think for there selfs as u dnt want folllowers
pigeonscout Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 No amount of flying around the house can be as good for birds (especially YBs) as miles on the wing. "Training" is just that, training them to race, so always mimic race conditions. Lib, home and in! agree 100%
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