removing grit/minerals while treating for canker??

[DJ]

ive just started my birds on a canker treatment called chevi-col  (dimetridazole) i think i read something in a pigeon weekly a couple of months back about having to remove all grit/minerals from the loft while treating for canker?   is that right?  can anybody advise me?     debbie :-/

[sapper756]

Can,t say I,ve heard that, I never remove them when treating, however that does not mean it is not recomended

[Ian McKay]

No not for canker

[hepste]

Debbie, I understand that calcium (contained in grit and minerals) negates the positive effects of antibiotics.  I understand that dimetridazole is an antibiotic, so you would be correct in having concerns.

[Guest IB]

There was advice given on the forum a while back that one class of antibiotic - tetracyclines - has an affinity for calcium (calcium is in the grit and in the minerals). The drug binds with this calcium and this stops it entering the birds system.

 

Your instructions should include a list of 'do and donts'.

 

 

[DJ]

thanks everyone 4 the replies    the instructions refer to dosage, it also states that its not known to interact with other meds, can show signs of paralysis and gagging in yb,s on 4/5th day of treatment      wouldnt the manufacturers state if grit/minerals affected the treatment?   debbie  :-/

[Ian McKay]

Yes

[DUBLINFLYER]

ive just started my birds on a canker treatment called chevi-col  (dimetridazole) i think i read something in a pigeon weekly a couple of months back about having to remove all grit/minerals from the loft while treating for canker?   is that right?  can anybody advise me?     debbie :-/

 

debbie i believe that you are suppose to remove grit/mnerals when treating for respiratory!!!!! never heard of removing it for canker treatment............... now in saying that it wouldn't do any harm to remove it whilst treating them for canker but it is a MUST while treating for respiratory an this is a FACT....... REGARDS GER  

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

I heard you must take all grit and minerals away when giving any sort of medication. Wont do them any harm taking it away for a day or two

[jimmy white]

ive just started my birds on a canker treatment called chevi-col  (dimetridazole) i think i read something in a pigeon weekly a couple of months back about having to remove all grit/minerals from the loft while treating for canker?   is that right?  can anybody advise me?     debbie :-/

 

debbie i dont think dimetridazole [emtryl] is in fact an antibiotic , i think your safe  enough just using it , i have done this without taking the grit away , with no adverse reactions ,,,safe enough i think

[DUBLINFLYER]

 

debbie i dont think dimetridazole [emtryl] is in fact an antibiotic , i think your safe  enough just using it , i have done this without taking the grit away , with no adverse reactions ,,,safe enough i think

 

if you don't "emtryl" is an antibiotic then please tell us wot exactly it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-/ i always thought it woz!

[Guest IB]

 

debbie i believe that you are suppose to remove grit/mnerals when treating for respiratory!!!!! never heard of removing it for canker treatment............... now in saying that it wouldn't do any harm to remove it whilst treating them for canker but it is a MUST while treating for respiratory an this is a FACT....... REGARDS GER  

 

Last year I was prescribed medication by Pigeon Health for a bacterial respiratory infection. There was no instruction to remove minerals or grit when medicating the birds.

 

The removal of minerals and grit has to do with calcium stopping a particular medication working. So its the type of medication and nothing to do with the type of illness. Follow the instructions and you can't go wrong.

 

  

[DJ]

   the majority of you think its ok to carry on with the grit and minerals so thats what i will do  thanks for letting me pick your brains (again)  debbie

[Guest]

I heard you must take all grit and minerals away when giving any sort of medication. Wont do them any harm taking it away for a day or two

 

Agree totally,when treating for anything you should just get into the routine of taking away grits and minerals as the calcium and other minerals can reduce effectiveness,you should also dechlorinate the water you mix any sort of drug or pro biotic even in ,[just let the water stand over night before putting the powder/whatever in]

[jimmy white]

 

if you don't "emtryl" is an antibiotic then please tell us wot exactly it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-/ i always thought it woz!

 

so did i actually  , but acording to ,,,,,"notice of compliance"

                    " products for vetenary use"

brand name ,,,,,,,,,,emtryl

source..................rhone-poulenc.  animal nutrition

active ingredient ...dimetridazol

therapeutic class ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,",antibacterial"

 

as opposed to baytrill ,, on the same ,,,,,,,,,",products for vetenary use",,,,,,,,,,therapeutic class,,,,,,,,,",antibiotic"

 

but i have to say, i allways thought emtryl an antibiotic, similar to  flagyl