pigeonmo Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I am looking for Amino Nitrothiszole, preferably in liquid form but tablet form will do. Thanks.
Bluedoo Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=070360E6-9BF5-3DD6-4D4E6B1F1F843C84
rembrant2coo Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=070360E6-9BF5-3DD6-4D4E6B1F1F843C84 i can,t see any significant use for this product to be used in pigeons, users beware i think I.B. would like to get his little fingers in to this one me thinks :-/ :-/ :-/
Lennut Tar Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=070360E6-9BF5-3DD6-4D4E6B1F1F843C84 Interesting topic one could say ;D ;D ;D. But !!!!!!!, "boy oh boy" where is it all going to end etc. We all will have to do a university degree ;) to understand all the science involved I"m afraid, if this is the path now required to keep pigeons. Enjoy.
Novice Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 I think this product was marketed as Harkanker (spelt with a k I think) years ago. Small red capsules in a very small red container. This was withdrawn either because it was ineffective or legislation restricted it's use. I am interested why it is required surely there are more effective substitutes available.
jimmy white Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 I think this product was marketed as Harkanker (spelt with a k I think) years ago. Small red capsules in a very small red container. This was withdrawn either because it was ineffective or legislation restricted it's use. I am interested why it is required surely there are more effective substitutes available. im not sure if this was used in harkanker ,but remember the small red containers well,,,,,,,,,these seem to have come of the market for some reason,, same as the yelow containers , coresium capsules [which was furazoladone,,if spelt right ]
Guest shadow Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 I personally would not use on pigeons for any reason
jimmy white Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 i think the harkanker ingredient was dimetridazol [if spe
jimmy white Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 I personally would not use on pigeons for any reason no,,,def , not
Guest IB Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 i can,t see any significant use for this product to be used in pigeons, users beware i think I.B. would like to get his little fingers in to this one me thinks :-/ :-/ :-/ Saw this thread go up and thought, I've never heard of it. Interesting though that it appears that it was once used in pigeons, if Jimmy and others are correct that it was the active ingredient in Harkanker because the UK Harkanker license was suspended on 10.10.05 (VMD website) and that itself should sound warning bells that there is something far wrong with it. Working backwards from the active ingredient ;D turned up 4 'Brand Names' :- Enheptin, Entramin, Nitramin, Nitramine - but nothing at all on them except none of them are authorised for use in the UK (VMD website) though there are very brief mentions of them:- ‘treated with the formerly used anti-canker drug Enheptin’, (Gordon Chalmers Article on Canker). ‘Flagyl, Spartrix, Metronidazole, Entramin, Emtryl (encourages the lesions to drop off), or Carnidazole (or, less preferred, Enheptin) are typically prescribed for this. (Raptor Site on disease treatment (Frounce aka Canker) So agree with you - users beware.
Back garden fancier Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 Jus buy some Spartrix, or the Ronidazole Kuur. Assuming that is that your birds have ben tested and have canker ?
pigeonmo Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Posted May 17, 2008 Thanks for all of your replies. Yes it's used for treating canker and I read about it in an 'Old Hand' book. Doesn't look very promising judging by your replies. Rembrandt2coo - don't understand - sorry!
Guest IB Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 Thanks for all of your replies. Yes it's used for treating canker and I read about it in an 'Old Hand' book. Doesn't look very promising judging by your replies. Rembrandt2coo - don't understand - sorry! Remember that Old Hand was writing yonks ago; for example you could also have read recommendations about using DDT insectide on the loft and birds - this stuff has also been banned for yonks
Novice Posted May 17, 2008 Report Posted May 17, 2008 Remember that Old Hand was writing yonks ago; for example you could also have read recommendations about using DDT insectide on the loft and birds - this stuff has also been banned for yonks IB many years ago the use of DDT was blamed for the decline in the numbers of birds of prey. Now there's a thought.
pigeonmo Posted May 19, 2008 Author Report Posted May 19, 2008 The copy I have is "The Ailments and Diseases of the Racing Pigeon and How to Treat Them." The copy was updated in 1993 but as you say things get banned etc etc.
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