van den bosche

[Guest grizzler]

hi everyone,

who in your opinion has the best jansen van den bosche birds in the uk today.

thanks...steve :)

[BLACK W F]

you should ask who is winning out of turn with them replies on a postage stamp  lol

[Guest grizzler]

are they that bad then black wf  lol

[Guest]

i honestly rmember anybody tellin me they were winning with them

[Guest strapper]

does a name of spence and nichols come to mind?

[gangster]

does a name of spence and nichols come to mind?

 

yes sure does a long time ago......try joe61 his lad has em...

[Guest]

TRY MR/MRS ALAN HORTON OF TELFORD HE RACES AND WINS YEAR IN YEAR OUT WITH THEM THAY ARE NICE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH  

                             KEV ELLIOTT

[Guest strapper]

i do believe that albert tarlington flies them..along with duncan ferguson??...i think im right.

 

[gangster]

i do believe that albert tarlington flies them..along with duncan ferguson??...i think im right.

 

i dont think so paul...albert babbington does and they come via joe 61..

[Turk]

did john halstead not just win a big race flying a van den bosche cock

[swilcox]

The best in my opinion would belong to Brian Ferris of Bristol not only because he has won many many Feds and Combines upto 6000 birds but the fact he has bred so many winners for others around the area, most are inbred to his  Champion Endeuver and Jublilant, he has crossed a bit of Houben into them. Endeuver won 12 x 1st. He also won 1st Fed Saintes 410 miles last year with a van den bosche.

 

Stuart

[pjc]

 

yes sure does a long time ago......try joe61 his lad has em...

 

only if you want funny colours!

 

 

[swilcox]

I will actually go one step farther and say that the Frans Zwols pigeons i own are super fast, the only pigeons to live with them are Ferris Van Den Bosche pigeons so i have introduced 3 hens to stock myself and they are out of this world.

 

Stuart

[Guest grizzler]

thanks to all of you for replying to my question...much appreciated.

 

cheers...steve

[Guest tom123]

john kirk of warrington also flew them well

[Guest]

 

i dont think so paul...albert babbington does and they come via joe 61..

 

SOME of Albert Babbingtons JVB come via Joe61 9now 62 ;D] but not all of them by a long way Mick.

[BLACK W F]

so if they that good why have most guys replaced them with other familys  at one time they where at the top but not know  look at the lofts who had them but since moved on so ask your self why  odd ones still winning with them but just odd ones

[swilcox]

Black w/f lots of people just re-badge the same birds, for instance Houben was very famous in Belguim, now the front runner is Arian Verreckt, where did they get there birds (50% from Houben) but nobody calls them Houben. Frans Zwols are Camphuis crossed with Leideman (Yskout x Koopman x Minderhout) but to most they are Zwols!!!!

 

To add only a small number of fanciers ie The Bert Hessions of this world have the skills to maintain a family, most have one bad year probaly due to health or something and instantly grab for something new!!!!

 

Brian Ferris is amongst the very best sprint/middle distance fanciers in this country with Van den Bosche x Houben!!!! Results speaks volumes!!!!

 

[BLACK W F]

Stewart read the post again most guys have got shot because they have found some thing faster thats fact not fiction  not knocking your mate if they win for him fine but he is one in the minoraty and has also brought a cross in   tell me how many guys are flying them and winning in the UNC  i will answer for you none  but there again they never did

[Guest pigeon82]

i have 2 van den boshe in my loft and they dropped with my first 14 in  our fed racce on monday lovely strong birds just see how thwy get on raceing for rest of the year i could have timed them in but only timed 3 and took first 3 in club but the big racing starts on this saturday

[Guest numpty01]

if members remmber i gave a load away thet were never crossed and could not possably as they were all together i kept two pairs ??nice looking birds but rubbish out of the cross you mention stewart the houbon would be the driveing force not the bosh side houbons in my view have always been good birds

[pjc]

Where has the art of knowing what you got and how to reproduce once again your winning birds gone seems now once they have gone you just bring in something else then when they are finished bring in another lot  Obviously you need to look at bringing in new birds and seeing what makes good cross

 

There are very few lofts that just keep a single family these days. I think most are looking to improve, move forward and will bring in what they consider are the right birds to produce something to meet there aims.

Anybody who has just kept 1 old breed will have not progressed.

It depends on your aims, to continue to win or keep a family of birds that may have once won?

 

Phil

 

 

[Guest]

the further pigeons get inbreedthe worse they become for racing! therefore a cross is needed to spark it back to life! and when this is done people regards them as unpure! were my belief is a new strain is created! your own! these old  breeds need to be crossed! which is were stuarts houben cross does well! but 1 bad line crossed to a good line will not make good birds so the vdb must have something

[Guest]

the further pigeons get inbreedthe worse they become for racing! therefore a cross is needed to spark it back to life! and when this is done people regards them as unpure! were my belief is a new strain is created! your own! these old  breeds need to be crossed! which is were stuarts houben cross does well! but 1 bad line crossed to a good line will not make good birds so the vdb must have something

 

You talk a lot of sense   ;) A lot of people think that because a strain hasn't got "Van" this or that in front of it's name it is cr@p. What is wrong with the "Smith" and "Jones" names, or are we all inferior to our Belgian counterparts.

[Guest]

the name cooper beats any van  lol