Help needed for Emergency First Aid - Percy stike

[Guest Denny]

Birds were let out on Sunday and must have I must had yet another Percy strike as 4 are still missing and one has just returned today with a couple lacerations on his back where his shoulders are.  That makes 3 birds to Percy since June.

 

The cuts seem to have gone through the surface of the skin and are dark in colour on the bird there appears to be no visual signs of blood loss (white feathers).  

 

Problem is I only have first aid products for humans - can I make do for tonight until I can get some proper antibiotics?

 

antibiotics - Erythromycin 250mg

Steristrips

Antiseptic cream

Very small  syringes

 

I have already asked a local fancier and he just said to destroy the bird - but I want to try give him a chance.

 

Can any one help with some advice?

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

if not bleeding your probably best to leave it alone any crop holes are best sealed with superglue pigeons are very robust perhaps some photos would help to see the damage thats been done

[kev43]

Birds were let out on Sunday and must have I must had yet another Percy strike as 4 are still missing and one has just returned today with a couple lacerations on his back where his shoulders are.  That makes 3 birds to Percy since June.

 

The cuts seem to have gone through the surface of the skin and are dark in colour on the bird there appears to be no visual signs of blood loss (white feathers).  

 

Problem is I only have first aid products for humans - can I make do for tonight until I can get some proper antibiotics?

 

antibiotics - Erythromycin 250mg

Steristrips

Antiseptic cream

Very small  syringes

 

I have already asked a local fancier and he just said to destroy the bird - but I want to try give him a chance.

 

Can any one help with some advice?

 

 

y destroy it ? longs as it,s eatin and drinkin and no holes in the crop just lock it in a box and it shud b ok ,,only thing that will harm it will b the shock  

[Guest Denny]

if not bleeding your probably best to leave it alone any crop holes are best sealed with superglue pigeons are very robust perhaps some photos would help to see the damage thats been done

 

Is it worth bathing the cuts in salt water for the meantime to clean them out or just leave them?  Do I still go a head with the antibiotics tomorrow when I can get them?  :-/

 

Sorry but I'm totally a novice on medication and treatment of birds!

 

[kev43]

 

Is it worth bathing the cuts in salt water for the meantime to clean them out or just leave them?  Do I still go a head with the antibiotics tomorrow when I can get them?  :-/

 

Sorry but I'm totally a novice on medication and treatment of birds!

 

iodine if u hav any if not warm salty water if theres blood showin if not just leave it and let it rest in a box wi shavins and corn and water for a few days  

[kev43]

i wud leave the antibiotics for a few days till it gets ova the shock thing is u dnt want it stressin out any more  denny

[Guest Denny]

 

y destroy it ? longs as it,s eatin and drinkin and no holes in the crop just lock it in a box and it shud b ok ,,only thing that will harm it will b the shock  

 

The poor thing has been out since Sunday 12.45pm  Percy must have attacked as the birds have been coming back to the loft over the last couple of days

 

Would the shock be more pronounced now its back in the loft?  How long does shock take to show itself?  Do you know how long?

 

The cuts are only on the back of the bird no damage to the crop that I can see.

 

Sorry for all the questions!  :B

[just ask me]

pigeons are great at healing themselves a lot of the time probably just best to make sure the bird wound is clean and a little rub down of antiseptic  

[Guest]

If the wound has stopped bleeding leave well alone and just use a small amount of antiseptic cream. By bathing the wound you may restart the bleeding and put the bird through further stress which could end up Killing it. As has been said lock it in a box with food and water. If you are getting regular strikes it may be worth keeping your birds in for the winter, that way the BOP will not get into the habit of thinking they have an easy food source.

[kev43]

 

Is it worth bathing the cuts in salt water for the meantime to clean them out or just leave them?  Do I still go a head with the antibiotics tomorrow when I can get them?  :-/

 

Sorry but I'm totally a novice on medication and treatment of birds!

 

normally lasts a few days but now bk in the loft it will b glad 2 b home now and feel alot safer now

[kev43]

I treat the pigeons the same as my kids---meat and blood  is meat and blood--on all living things.

 

what kind ov advice is that ?  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest Denny]

 

y destroy it ? longs as it,s eatin and drinkin and no holes in the crop just lock it in a box and it shud b ok ,,only thing that will harm it will b the shock  

 

The poor thing has been out since Sunday 12.45pm  Percy must have attacked as the birds have been coming back to the loft over the last couple of days

 

Would the shock be more pronounced now its back in the loft?  How long does shock take to show itself?  Do you know how long?

 

The cuts are only on the back of the bird no damage to the crop that I can see.

 

Sorry for all the questions!  :B

[Guest IB]

Emergency first aid is just as it says - make good use of what you have in the house, but just to clean and sterilise the wound. No antibiotics.

 

When I get a bird back with a scabbed-over wound, I always bathe it in warm soapy water till the cotton wool ball starts to turn red. My reason for doing this is I do not want to chance the wound healing over with infection present in it. When the scab is softened and off, I pour neat antiseptic into the wound. Then I dab it dry, seal it with a healing cream, and leave the rest to the bird.

 

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[Peckedhen]

Keep it away from the others Denny, they are mean if they think that one is not up to par.  Have you checked under the wings for any more injuries?  Hope he makes it.

 

Sue

[OLDYELLOW]

well as i said earlier been a while since been hit , so wounds are healed and dry no point in further distressing the bird anymore i have had 3 birds badly injured  this year all needed no intervention from me and made good a good recovery   good food and water and rest away  from other birds and should bounce back to full health

[Guest Denny]

if not bleeding your probably best to leave it alone any crop holes are best sealed with superglue pigeons are very robust perhaps some photos would help to see the damage thats been done

 

First photo is one near the rear of the bird -Photo is poor as doing it single handed with cameraphone!  Will take some better ones when daughter is home from work.

 

Second one is near shoulder of the bird -seems wide and dark coloured - no 'fresh' red blood on any of the cuts

 

[kev43]

 

First photo is one near the rear of the bird -Photo is poor as doing it single handed with cameraphone!  Will take some better ones when daughter is home from work.

 

Second one is near shoulder of the bird -seems wide and dark coloured - no 'fresh' red blood on any of the cuts

 

they look superficial i wud just leave it 2 rest denny and not 2 worry 2 much about them it will heal on its own just lock in a box wi corn and water  

[Guest Denny]

Keep it away from the others Denny, they are mean if they think that one is not up to par.  Have you checked under the wings for any more injuries?  Hope he makes it.

 

Sue

 

Hi Sue,  Its number 63!  my first bird from you   I'd hate to lose him as become quite attached to him - have checked everywhere else he seems to have escaped injury only seems to have attacked his back.  I hope he makes it too.

 

He is a little mucky around his face, looks like dried blood at the top near his nostrils but it could be where he has been trying to clean/check his wound maybe as he can reach around to it?

 

How do I stop him getting to that!  :-/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kirky]

just smear antiseptic cream over wounds and let it rest, i always think thay recover sooner if thay can see other birds in loft try keeping it in a nest box close to the floor for a couple of days.

[OLDYELLOW]

 

they look superficial i wud just leave it 2 rest denny and not 2 worry 2 much about them it will heal on its own just lock in a box wi corn and water  

 

yup wounds look fine

[av8or]

Last year I had a bird (ironically my favourite bird) arrive back the next day after hitting a wire. My jubilation after his arrival was soon thwarted by the realisation that he had a large gash along his underside. In fact, it looked horrific. I'm not sure how he managed to fly, as the poor thing could hardly walk. Anyway, I will cut to the chase, I applied some horse wound antiseptic powder, which acts both as an antiseptic and coagulant to stop bleeding. I locked him up in next box and darkened it. He now has no residual effects, although still bares the marks of his plight and has subsequently sired 3 rounds of babies this year. Obviously I don't race him.

 

As regard to your bird Denny, the wound is very minor, if I can use my birds injury as a basis for comparison and as it's dried up, I would be inclined to leave it and confine the bird only if you feel it would benefit from rest.

[paul10121968]

Birds were let out on Sunday and must have I must had yet another Percy strike as 4 are still missing and one has just returned today with a couple lacerations on his back where his shoulders are.  That makes 3 birds to Percy since June.

 

The cuts seem to have gone through the surface of the skin and are dark in colour on the bird there appears to be no visual signs of blood loss (white feathers).  

 

Problem is I only have first aid products for humans - can I make do for tonight until I can get some proper antibiotics?

 

antibiotics - Erythromycin 250mg

Steristrips

Antiseptic cream

Very small  syringes

 

I have already asked a local fancier and he just said to destroy the bird - but I want to try give him a chance.

 

Can any one help with some advice?

 

 

i have had two birds attacked by hawks this year so far,both have managed to get home with horrific injuries.i have found that a pigeon has amazing healing capabilities and is best left alone to tend his own wounds.as long as there is no bleeding all you have to do is keep a close eye on the bird,if he,s really badly wounded put him on his own in a basket but near to the other birds to make him feel safe and calm.you will be amazed at how quickly they recover.its up to you whether or not you give antibiotics but unless a infection is evident i would not bother.give him some time and he will be fine,please,please do not kill just because he has a bit of bad luck.

[Guest wattle]

savlon cream its the best stuff i have ever seen for healing pigeons.