Parastop

[Guest rodders]

  :-/ the flu jab is licenced in the uk,PARASTOP is not .

 

 

this is a bit of a sore point with me as things that are licenced in the eu arnt licenced here but we are part of eu or is that only when it suits the goverment?????????????? ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest lenwadebob]

Anyone know what is the make-up of this product-------NO GUESSING----- JUST FACT .

 

It contains Norflaxacin a broad spectrum medication effective against several bacterial infections like Paratyphoid.

 

Information from http://www.globalpigeon.com/gps.php?action=showprod&id=4

[Guest strapper]

 

this is a bit of a sore point with me as things that are licenced in the eu arnt licenced here but we are part of eu or is that only when it suits the goverment?????????????? ;D ;D ;D

 

 

very well said...if we are part of the eu arent the eu regulations supposed to be intact here also?

 

 

[Guest strapper]

heres what dr david marx has to say about paratyphoid

 

Paratyphoid, or salmonella infection, tends to stay hidden until the birds are stressed; and reproduction is the usual stress which triggers the clinical infections.

 

There are other bacteria which can mimic salmonellosis, mainly other Gram negative bactria, but they make birds sick much less frequently than does salmonella.

 

Some of the symptoms that might be seen include: sore joints, swollen joints including wing boils, weight loss, mucoid (sticky) feces, youngsters dying in the nest, young dying in the shell, eggs beginning development then dying early and turning black, "going light", and sudden death.

 

Less commonly, we can see head tilting or twisted necks due to brain abcesses, loss of color in one or both irises, and blindness.

 

Often the cases remain isolated or limited to very few individuals, but it can progress to epidemics of varying severity. Devastating epidemics are uncommon but have been seen; more typically only a few birds are involved.

 

Treatment consists of the use of certain antibiotics, preferably one to which the particular strain of bacteria has been shown to be susceptible to. When "shooting from the hip", use antibiotics which have a high degree of success such as Baytril, Saraflox, Cephalexin, and Amoxicillin.

 

When the birds are not producing eggs or feeding young, I like to use Baytril. If you must treat while they are in reproduction, my drug of choice is Amoxicillin. Treat for 10 days.

 

Treatment success can be improved when the birds are vaccinated with SalBac while on the antibiotic. Caution: don't vaccinate when the birds are setting eggs or feeding young as they will neglect their duties because of feeling so badly from the vaccine.

 

Yes, birds can be cured of paratyphoid but one is never sure if this is the case after treatment. Removal of infected birds has merit in controlling this disease, but if the bird(s) is valuable it is worth trying to salvage it with antibiotic therapy.

 

Some will remain as carriers but there are lots of carriers out there

 

[ch pied]

 

It contains Norflaxacin a broad spectrum medication effective against several bacterial infections like Paratyphoid.

 

Information from http://www.globalpigeon.com/gps.php?action=showprod&id=4

that is the pantex product , which is an all above board POM . WHAT ABOUT THE DE-WEERED PRODUCT that a lot of fancier's  in the UK are useing , any info on that one . ?

 

 

[greenlands]

that is the pantex product , which is an all above board POM . WHAT ABOUT THE DE-WEERED PRODUCT that a lot of fancier's  in the UK are useing , any info on that one . ?

 

 

As I said before I'm not bothered where it comes from, above board or not as long as I can race my pigeons.

Tell me a pigeon fancier that doesn't use products from places other than a vet.

Lindsay

[ch pied]

 

As I said before I'm not bothered where it comes from, above board or not as long as I can race my pigeons.

Tell me a pigeon fancier that doesn't use products from places other than a vet.

Lindsay

when a fancier has to give a BLIND treatment without knowing for deffo what he or she is dealing with , which is the case when thing's go pear shaped at an alarming rate , i like to know what is in the product , ( useing de-weerd's PARASTOP turn's into a doubble BLIND . 1 for cause , 1 for product .

 

 

[mark proctor]

 

As I said before I'm not bothered where it comes from, above board or not as long as I can race my pigeons.

Tell me a pigeon fancier that doesn't use products from places other than a vet.

Lindsay

 

hi lindsay m8,,i no what you mean about the dreaded ybs,,.we just wont to race our young birds without getting it...ive had it every year since ive had pigeons ,,11 years..and im just about had enough of it..2 years ago i lost half my team cos of it,,secondry infection,,these cost me alot of money,,but they died even through going threw 3 vets and more money...this parostop sounds good to me..ive never used it either,,i would pay thousands ££££££ if some one would come up with a cure that stops it...i packed in racing for 2 years and started back up agin last year only to get ybs once again.. :o :o :o this time it hit them hard once again but none died this time but got a secondry once again....loads of money to get them right again also 3 vets....it took months to get them right after loads of antibitics which i hated useing,,i just dont wont to go there again next year the same as you m8.....all the best if this parostop works to both of us.....regards ,,,,mark..

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

I think in this day and age you have to treat for para most of us are racing birds which come from the continent and they treat for para every year . if you tell them you never treat for para they look at you like you are some sort of novice lol . To win races your birds have to be 100 percent fit and healthy and that means treating them you might not see they have para but i can garuntee there are carriers of it in every one of our lofts . If an sports person has the slightest thing wrong with him he will treat him self and cure it before it get to bad unfortunalitly my birds carnt talk to me and tell me they have a slight infection so i treat to make sure there fit and healthy before birds start to die and lose weight and drop there wings

[Guest strapper]

 

hi lindsay m8,,i no what you mean about the dreaded ybs,,.we just wont to race our young birds without getting it...ive had it every year since ive had pigeons ,,11 years..and im just about had enough of it..2 years ago i lost half my team cos of it,,secondry infection,,these cost me alot of money,,but they died even through going threw 3 vets and more money...this parostop sounds good to me..ive never used it either,,i would pay thousands ££££££ if some one would come up with a cure that stops it...i packed in racing for 2 years and started back up agin last year only to get ybs once again.. :o :o :o this time it hit them hard once again but none died this time but got a secondry once again....loads of money to get them right again also 3 vets....it took months to get them right after loads of antibitics which i hated useing,,i just dont wont to go there again next year the same as you m8.....all the best if this parostop works to both of us.....regards ,,,,mark..

 

 

mark..the vet will only give you the treatment he/she,s allowed by law to give you, there would be MANY more treatments they would like to give you but their hands are tied.

there are a few thats good

 

 

 

[mark proctor]

 

 

mark..the vet will only give you the treatment he/she,s allowed by law to give you, there would be MANY more treatments they would like to give you but their hands are tied.

there are a few thats good

 

 

cheers m8,,ile try the parostop on my birds this year then the young birds next,,,see what happens then..i no a few lads that never ever get ybs,,well thats what they tell me,,, :( :( :( :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

[Guest IB]

Norfloxacin is the active ingredient in Parastop. It is in the same "family" of drugs as ciprofloxacin hydrochloride (Cipro) and enrofloxacin (Baytril).

 

It is an antibiotic, not a vaccine.

 

My own studies of p/basics members use of parastop is that most haven't a clue what it is but use it mainly because others tell them it improves their results. The fact is Animal Health Authorities tell us there is no problem with paratyphoid in Britain in either wild or domestic animals. So using parastop to protect against it is pure fallacy.

 

PMV vaccination may be the first introduction to virus that the young bird gets. It may set the bird up to be better able to deal with circo- or adenovirus, and so prevent YBS later. Parastop, like any other antibiotic is useless against a virus.

 

Vaccination is a recognised way of preventing disease; indiscriminate use of antibiotics isn't. You can't cure something you don't have. In fact Authorities have evidence using medicine in this way (prophylactic) causes disease and disease resistant to medication too. So you think it's doing no harm. Just hope you don't get hit with the real McCoy.

 

 

[Guest strapper]

Norfloxacin is the active ingredient in Parastop. It is in the same "family" of drugs as ciprofloxacin hydrochloride (Cipro) and enrofloxacin (Baytril).

 

It is an antibiotic, not a vaccine.

 

My own studies of p/basics members use of parastop is that most haven't a clue what it is but use it mainly because others tell them it improves their results. The fact is Animal Health Authorities tell us there is no problem with paratyphoid in Britain in either wild or domestic animals. So using parastop to protect against it is pure fallacy.

 

PMV vaccination may be the first introduction to virus that the young bird gets. It may set the bird up to be better able to deal with circo- or adenovirus, and so prevent YBS later. Parastop, like any other antibiotic is useless against a virus.

 

Vaccination is a recognised way of preventing disease; indiscriminate use of antibiotics isn't. You can't cure something you don't have. In fact Authorities have evidence using medicine in this way (prophylactic) causes disease and disease resistant to medication too. So you think it's doing no harm. Just hope you don't get hit with the real McCoy.

 

 

growing evidence suggests that most lofts have paratyphoid in the case as carriers,so treating for this would lower the chance of an outbreak,like all birds carry a low count of worms/canker etc without them raising their levels. agree with not treating with an antibiotic wihtout having an illness.

 

 

[Guest]

parastop advertised most weeks for sale in bhw which if im right is owned by rpra ????????

parastop aint a vaccine its in powdered form

:-/ ;D ;D and whats in the powder

 

 

[gorsy bank lofts]

never used parastop but do inject for pmv straight after weaning

NEVER had ybs :-/

[mark croker]

adenovirus or young bird sickness is a virus, there is no treatment for a virus (just prevention), What para stop keeps at bay is the 2nd infection, adenovirus (ybs) and e,coli all the time come at the same time, you can treat the bactirial infection but the pigeon has to fight the virus itself,  you can treat with antibiotics and good loft hygine,

 

I have just watched keep them healthy 2 where he gets opinions from about 4 vets,   the best film i have ever seen  

[mark croker]

i put in the water every 2 weeks for 24 hrs

no problems as yet

 

Worst thing you can do mate

 

[Guest bakes]

this is the stuff i used a sachet per 2 litres of water for 8 days

 

 

all the best.

[biglad]

used parastop and vaccinated for paratyphus still got ybs

[biglad]

active ingredient in parastop is norfloxacin

[pearse1888]

if i had paratyphoid id treat with pharma paratyphoid cure then inject but its best to get tested ... i treated blind for years aint worth the hassle you spend more on meds etc and more time wasting

[mark croker]

Most of the top flyers treat every year with the likes of parastop and only jab if they have signs of it,  (well the top flyers in are fed anyway)

 

I will be treating with altabactine and wont jab as i dont need to,

 

Also you need to do the whole treatment not a day or two as it will become immune to the antibiotics just like with small doses of a virus we become immune

[Guest cowboy]

  NEW Parastop

Against Paratyphoid (Salmonellosis), E.Coli and a-specific bacterial infections.

 

Dose :

 

1 sachet per 2 litres of water or

1 5gr sachet with 1 kg of grains.

8-14 days consecutive.

Tablets = 2 per day for 5 consecutive days  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Type/Size

5gr Sachet - £1.50

50 Tablets - £12.50

150g Tub - £31.50

300g Tub - £60.00

 

 

 

has enyone used the tablets

[Guest IB]

 

growing evidence suggests that most lofts have paratyphoid in the case as carriers,so treating for this would lower the chance of an outbreak,like all birds carry a low count of worms/canker etc without them raising their levels. agree with not treating with an antibiotic wihtout having an illness.

 

 

What evidence?

[Guest rodders]

i read in 1 of the pigeon papers last year or year before an artical by a belgium where it said that problem was getting that bad there was talk of making paratyphiod vacination compulsary like pmv but havent seen anything else about it since from belgium

there was another artical that stated from vet reports here and abroad that as many as 85% of lofts could have paratyphiod at some level and most wouldnt know

after reading these articals and doing some reasearch on web on paratyphiod that made my mind up to treat for it every year