greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Over the past few weeks I've been reading on various pigeon forums about the use of Parastop.Appart from it's obvious use as in it's name ,what's the fanciers opinion on the use of it to stop young bird sickness.I read that some of the fanciers that used it did not get ybs. that season.Another product of similar use is Altabactin ,this again claimed by fanciers to cut down the risk of getting ybs. ????? Please give me your opinion one way or the other.Have you used one or the other or over the years have you used both,are the claims of reducing or even stopping ybs. correct.???? Lindsay C.
stantheman Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 I have used parastop for last three years on stock and racers before pairing up and then repeated on racers before racing starts and have not had youngbird sickness and also have had much better hatch rate,
greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Posted October 20, 2009 I have used parastop for last three years on stock and racers before pairing up and then repeated on racers before racing starts and have not had youngbird sickness and also have had much better hatch rate, That's the answer I'm looking for mate,more replies to come I hope. Lindsay
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Over the past few weeks I've been reading on various pigeon forums about the use of Parastop.Appart from it's obvious use as in it's name ,what's the fanciers opinion on the use of it to stop young bird sickness.I read that some of the fanciers that used it did not get ybs. that season.Another product of similar use is Altabactin ,this again claimed by fanciers to cut down the risk of getting ybs. ????? Please give me your opinion one way or the other.Have you used one or the other or over the years have you used both,are the claims of reducing or even stopping ybs. correct.???? Lindsay C. i use parastop every year, in fact ive just finished a 12 day course of every bird in my lofts dont know about the y/b sickness but touch wood ive never had it was told years ago that using probiotics kept it at bay, was told to put yakult in their water every sunday dave
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 i use parastop every year, in fact ive just finished a 12 day course of every bird in my lofts dont know about the y/b sickness but touch wood ive never had it was told years ago that using probiotics kept it at bay, was told to put yakult in their water every sunday dave forgot to say that after my y/b team are assembed they also get treated around march time
Guest lenwadebob Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 I used Parastop this season for the first time before pairing up and again on youngsters when they were 6 weeks old. I never had YBS this year. I also used a course of it on all new young bird before putting them in the YB loft. Seemed to do the job for me.
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 So your all treating blind then eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemm
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 So your all treating blind then eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemm probably :-/ :-/ :-/ but had it a few years ago and had to dispose of most of my birds nearly all my stock birds which were irreplaceable there is no way im going through that again dave
Guest strapper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 in my recent studying of this, ive read by a very top fancier/vet that flys in belgium(name excapes me at the moment) he states that experiments were done over a few years and he found that when his youngbirds had youngbird sickness ,the following year as a yearling, they would at around the 8th race lose form and stop scoring. just by chance he started a paratyhoid vaccination programme on his birds. that year he found out that he didnt contract youngbird sickness!..also the form of the yearlings didnt drop to the extent it had been in previous years...infact no where as bad. its a well known fact that oldbirds can contact the adenovirus(ybs). sometimes it comes out in oldbirds as sourcrop....oldbirds have better/stronger imunity than youngbirds so dont have the affects it has on youngbirds. this fancier/vet continued this programme each year and has avoided youngbird sicknes each year since. he also stated that this could be down to certain qualities in the vaccination or a better hygiene programme...ie through drinkers and feeders and the usual loft floor covering. may i just add this...this year different to other years ive vaccinated(pmv) the youngbirds quite soon after parting them...this year i have not had ybs nor any other problem...1st year this has happened.
Guest strapper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 also to add to this...there is studies that show that high acidity in birds decreases the chance of having paratyhoid,and that alkaline floor coverings can increase the chance slighly of having it. another good reason for high acidity levels is, it keeps the worm count down .
Guest chrisss Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 So your all treating blind then eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemm in this case [and only this case]i do, it also seems to firm up any droppings that are loose
greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Posted October 20, 2009 Went passed the local Rugby club the other day,wondered what was going on,only to find everyone getting their winter flu jab.Is that teating blind????????? Lindsay
Guest rodders Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 with paratyphiod you are better giving a course of parastop as you say blind because if you have any carriers in loft they never show syptems so better safe than sorry in my eyes its only once a year not exactly abusing is it ;D
Guest lenwadebob Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Went passed the local Rugby club the other day,wondered what was going on,only to find everyone getting their winter flu jab.Is that teating blind????????? Lindsay I agree, prevention is better than cure
ch pied Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Went passed the local Rugby club the other day,wondered what was going on,only to find everyone getting their winter flu jab.Is that teating blind????????? Lindsay vacc for a virius with a licienced product with all info on the tin , parastop dont have that on the tin . is it altabactine , fruoxine , cripoflexine , furaltadone , ? a combo of all or some other magic combo with something else , if i have to use a product i like to know the make up .
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 is parastop just for prevention, i've never used it or felt the need to use it but if you suspected a bird had para, i.e a drop wing would it cure it?
jack Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 i put in the water every 2 weeks for 24 hrs no problems as yet
ch pied Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Anyone know what is the make-up of this product-------NO GUESSING----- JUST FACT .
greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Posted October 20, 2009 vacc for a virius with a licienced product with all info on the tin , parastop dont have that on the tin . is it altabactine , fruoxine , cripoflexine , furaltadone , ? a combo of all or some other magic combo with something else , if i have to use a product i like to know the make up . I agree with what your saying as with Deweerd products most don't tell you what's in the tin ie.bs.However IMO if a product is going to stop /cure a problem with your birds ,I don't care what's in the tin as long as it does the job. Lindsay
Guest rodders Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 if we are talking about flu jabs ect as treating blind listen to this grandaughter got sent home from school as wasnt well phoned doctor told swine flu so sent her tammy flu anyway 24hrs later after she had finished being sick and crapping all night she is as right as rain so it was just a 24hr stomach bug same as loads of kids pick up but because she had tammy flu sent to her she will be on next weeks list as 1 of confirmed swine flu cases ;D ;D
Guest strapper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 this is especially for the ones that are against treating blind.. how many of you are getting your family ready for the swine flu jab? how many of you have had your children vaccinated against tb in school? how many of you have elderly folk and you push them into having a regular flu jab? how many of you have vaccinations against what ever b4 you go abroad? how many take regular medication to stop heart attacks? there is no 50/50 or phone a friend .. treating blind is sometimes nescessary to prevent...what ever your beliefs! there is no excuse for not treating blind(prevention) when lives are at risk sometimes in certain cases TREATING BLIND IS RIGHT!
Guest strapper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 is parastop just for prevention, i've never used it or felt the need to use it but if you suspected a bird had para, i.e a drop wing would it cure it? hi phil i think there is no cure just a case of keeping it at bay it may take several years to eradicate it out of your loft through regular(yearly) treatments. but theres no saying it wont be back!
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Went passed the local Rugby club the other day,wondered what was going on,only to find everyone getting their winter flu jab.Is that teating blind????????? Lindsay :-/ the flu jab is licenced in the uk,PARASTOP is not .
Guest rodders Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 parastop advertised most weeks for sale in bhw which if im right is owned by rpra ???????? parastop aint a vaccine its in powdered form
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