The Three Secret Steps

[Guest peter.j]

This is a copy of what is for sale in the bhw for £35, it's not my method.

 

First of all thank you for sending for the 3 steps, trust me if you follow what is written you will not have a problem with young bird sickness again.

The 3 steps will not stop young bird sickness coming into your loft, but it will 100% clear young bird sickness from your birds in under 30 HOURS.

 

First off how do our young birds catch the sickness, at one time you would catch young bird sickness when you mixed your birds with others when training, or the first or second race, they come back from the trainer or race and by Tuesday pm they are being sick, and it takes 2 or 3 weeks before they can be race again, now fanciers are catching sickness long before they are mixed with other birds I personally believe the sickness is air born and it can now spread just by your pigeons flying with other youngsters when you let them out. Yours come back from flying with 5 or 6 youngsters from another loft and land with yours, this could be another way,

ONE of the first signs is when they land after a fly you will see 1 or 2 pecking at the floor, picking up bits of wood or plastic or anything the birds can or pick up, the young birds seem not to know what to do with themselves, when you call them to come in the shed 1 or 2 just will not go in and you know they are hungry they seem to not know the way to go into the shed. And when they do go in they eat for England, it starts off with 1 or 2 and in the end you have up to 60% of the birds acting this way these are a couple of signs to look for.

 

Also when you let them out you open the doors or trap and they just look at you, they just don't want to fly, if you chase them out they fly for about 15 mins, also they tend to go off their food slightly, tend to take longer to clear their feed.

In the mornings handle 6 to 10 birds each day to find out if they have corn still left in crop this is the last sign before young birds sickness, so keep a close eye on them.

 

I will tell you now the 3 steps will only work if you have got young bird sickness, just because birds have corn in crop in the morning, this does not mean they have the sickness. If you have birds that are not digesting their corn at all, then you can use the 3 steps.

Lets say you feed your young birds Monday AM and by Tues AM, they still have corn in crop then yes use the 3 steps.

 

PRODUCTS YOU WILL NEED =

 

There are 2 products you need to purchase, 1 from the supermarket first is SODA CRYSTAL.

The second product from a chemist is MEDICINAL CHARCOAL TABLETS, which contains 100 tablets cut in half this will give you 200 doses, you give half per young bird (make sure you buy tablets not capsules they are more expensive) I buy mine from BOOTS £2.99 for 100 tablets. They work on old birds too, if they are having problems with vomiting.

 

RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO =

 

If the young birds retain the corn for more than 24 hours or being sick, the following will be sufficient to treat 20 birds so you will have to make up as required:

ADD 5 teaspoons of soda crystal and 100 mls of warm water and stir till dissolved, it doesn't matter if you put 10 teaspoons you can not overdose with the amount.

So do not worry it will not hurt them, you need a syringe to syringe 5 ml down each birds throat, this will make them vomit up all the corn in the crop.

Leave them for half hour, if they have not been sick syringe 5 ml more down each birds throat you must make them SICK, the soda will sterilize their crop.

When they are sick feel the crop you might have to syringe them 1 more time, you must make sure the crop is completely empty of all corn, once you make sure the crop is empty let them rest for half hour then give them half of charcoal pill each.

When you are making them sick place them in a pen with grids or upturn a crate so they can not pick up corn when they are sick, OR you will have to watch them.

REMEMBER this works in seconds as soon as you syringe the 5 mls down the throat they will vomit straight away.

 

The next part is the most important once you give half of charcoal pill you must not feed for 26 HOURS please do not feed THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT.

Now when you feed you must only give them DEPURITIVE or DIET and you only give each bird quarter ounce only NO more that day.

The reason for the half pill is it goes through them and cleans them through from crop to back end.

And you only give them a light feed to start with the next day to start the crop moving, give birds quarter ounce depuritive or diet mix late evening. On second day, half ounce depuritive. On third day 50% depuritive 50% corn, once AM and the same late PM.

Next day feed back to normal, young bird sickness gone, you must follow instruction VERY IMPORTANT.

 

SO THE 3 STEPS ARE =

1 - SYRINGE 5ML DOWN THROAT TILL SICK

2 - HALF CHARCOAL PILL FOR EACH BIRD

3 - DO NOT FEED FOR 26 HOURS

 

From now on you do not have to worry about young bird sickness you now have the tools to deal with it.

 

 

Added by peter j = Great advice as been told it really works by those who have tried it but for £35 you'd think he'd include the ingredients as well  ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest stb]

Just ripping people of  ,  profitering from other peoples misery.

[Guest numpty01]

yep im glad pete had change heart will you be refunding the cash pete :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest peter.j]

Just ripping people of  ,  profitering from other peoples misery.

my sentiments exactly i was given a copy and its 2 a4 pieces of paper with all 4 sides written on which as you can see is waffle the important bit would probably fill half a page and its hard to read due to poor spelling if they had sent the crystals and tablets with it you would of at least got something for your money but 35 quid for 1/2 a page of info is a bit much by any body's standards

 

[Guest peter.j]

numpty01

no i wont ,BUT if anybody is really pleased with the free info and would like to donate to gail j 's velindre hospital appeal it would be gratefully received [by the way i apologise to the welsh fanciers if ive spelt the name of the hozzy wrong]

 

 

edited as i used wrong quote

[retired]

Sure i read on PC that the seller was gifted this method by a friend (who never wanted it made public or indeed to profit from it) and as such felt a little sc***ed over it to say the least.

 

Maybe it would be worth sticking the 'Three Secret Steps' back in the BHW for sale at £10.00 per copy and everything going to a worthwhile childrens charity or similar

[Guest Owen]

I  bet it works. And if you ask him, he will probably say that you are paying for his knowledge. Rip off, yes. But is this any differant form what the Vets have been doing to us?

[Guest spin cycle]

I  bet it works. And if you ask him, he will probably say that you are paying for his knowledge. Rip off, yes. But is this any differant form what the Vets have been doing to us?

 

i quite agree

[Guest]

This is a copy of what is for sale in the bhw for £35, it's not my method.

 

First of all thank you for sending for the 3 steps, trust me if you follow what is written you will not have a problem with young bird sickness again.

The 3 steps will not stop young bird sickness coming into your loft, but it will 100% clear young bird sickness from your birds in under 30 HOURS.

 

First off how do our young birds catch the sickness, at one time you would catch young bird sickness when you mixed your birds with others when training, or the first or second race, they come back from the trainer or race and by Tuesday pm they are being sick, and it takes 2 or 3 weeks before they can be race again, now fanciers are catching sickness long before they are mixed with other birds I personally believe the sickness is air born and it can now spread just by your pigeons flying with other youngsters when you let them out. Yours come back from flying with 5 or 6 youngsters from another loft and land with yours, this could be another way,

ONE of the first signs is when they land after a fly you will see 1 or 2 pecking at the floor, picking up bits of wood or plastic or anything the birds can or pick up, the young birds seem not to know what to do with themselves, when you call them to come in the shed 1 or 2 just will not go in and you know they are hungry they seem to not know the way to go into the shed. And when they do go in they eat for England, it starts off with 1 or 2 and in the end you have up to 60% of the birds acting this way these are a couple of signs to look for.

 

Also when you let them out you open the doors or trap and they just look at you, they just don't want to fly, if you chase them out they fly for about 15 mins, also they tend to go off their food slightly, tend to take longer to clear their feed.

In the mornings handle 6 to 10 birds each day to find out if they have corn still left in crop this is the last sign before young birds sickness, so keep a close eye on them.

 

I will tell you now the 3 steps will only work if you have got young bird sickness, just because birds have corn in crop in the morning, this does not mean they have the sickness. If you have birds that are not digesting their corn at all, then you can use the 3 steps.

Lets say you feed your young birds Monday AM and by Tues AM, they still have corn in crop then yes use the 3 steps.

 

PRODUCTS YOU WILL NEED =

 

There are 2 products you need to purchase, 1 from the supermarket first is SODA CRYSTAL.

The second product from a chemist is MEDICINAL CHARCOAL TABLETS, which contains 100 tablets cut in half this will give you 200 doses, you give half per young bird (make sure you buy tablets not capsules they are more expensive) I buy mine from BOOTS £2.99 for 100 tablets. They work on old birds too, if they are having problems with vomiting.

 

RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO =

 

If the young birds retain the corn for more than 24 hours or being sick, the following will be sufficient to treat 20 birds so you will have to make up as required:

ADD 5 teaspoons of soda crystal and 100 mls of warm water and stir till dissolved, it doesn't matter if you put 10 teaspoons you can not overdose with the amount.

So do not worry it will not hurt them, you need a syringe to syringe 5 ml down each birds throat, this will make them vomit up all the corn in the crop.

Leave them for half hour, if they have not been sick syringe 5 ml more down each birds throat you must make them SICK, the soda will sterilize their crop.

When they are sick feel the crop you might have to syringe them 1 more time, you must make sure the crop is completely empty of all corn, once you make sure the crop is empty let them rest for half hour then give them half of charcoal pill each.

When you are making them sick place them in a pen with grids or upturn a crate so they can not pick up corn when they are sick, OR you will have to watch them.

REMEMBER this works in seconds as soon as you syringe the 5 mls down the throat they will vomit straight away.

 

The next part is the most important once you give half of charcoal pill you must not feed for 26 HOURS please do not feed THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT.

Now when you feed you must only give them DEPURITIVE or DIET and you only give each bird quarter ounce only NO more that day.

The reason for the half pill is it goes through them and cleans them through from crop to back end.

And you only give them a light feed to start with the next day to start the crop moving, give birds quarter ounce depuritive or diet mix late evening. On second day, half ounce depuritive. On third day 50% depuritive 50% corn, once AM and the same late PM.

Next day feed back to normal, young bird sickness gone, you must follow instruction VERY IMPORTANT.

 

SO THE 3 STEPS ARE =

1 - SYRINGE 5ML DOWN THROAT TILL SICK

2 - HALF CHARCOAL PILL FOR EACH BIRD

3 - DO NOT FEED FOR 26 HOURS

 

From now on you do not have to worry about young bird sickness you now have the tools to deal with it.

 

 

Added by peter j = Great advice as been told it really works by those who have tried it but for £35 you'd think he'd include the ingredients as well  ;D ;D ;D

 

:-/ ive never read some much bull in all my life,ive had many fanciers ring me the last few weeks about young bird sickness,i have told them what to do after 48 hours all starts getting better,my mate was training his birds one week after this so called young bird sickness coming like rockets

 

 

[pjc]

:-/ ive never read some much bull in all my life,ive had many fanciers ring me the last few weeks about young bird sickness,i have told them what to do after 48 hours all starts getting better,my mate was training his birds one week after this so called young bird sickness coming like rockets

 

 

Are you selling your secrets then!  ;D ;D ;D

[Ronnie]

if it saves a youngbird team them surely its worth it?

I agree once u have the knowledge its not much but its gaining the knowledge that counts.

incedently i'm sure ive read about using this cure in one of the Old hand books not sure what for though.I may be wrong but sure it was an old hand book

[Guest peter.j]

:-/ ive never read some much bull in all my life,ive had many fanciers ring me the last few weeks about young bird sickness,i have told them what to do after 48 hours all starts getting better,my mate was training his birds one week after this so called young bird sickness coming like rockets

 

 

good job im not the rip off trying to sell it then

[Guest stb]

if it saves a youngbird team them surely its worth it?

I agree once u have the knowledge its not much but its gaining the knowledge that counts.

incedently i'm sure ive read about using this cure in one of the Old hand books not sure what for though.I may be wrong but sure it was an old hand book

good to save ybs but if i new the formula i would let people have it free gratis not charging them £35.

 

 

[Guest peter.j]

i think the old hand remedy was charcoal for sour crop

[pjc]

thats realy what the above treatment is for, sour crop not YBS, where yes they do hold food but also have other problems that a charcoal tablet won't cure. IMO

[Guest peter.j]

thats realy what the above treatment is for, sour crop not YBS, where yes they do hold food but also have other problems that a charcoal tablet won't cure. IMO

 

surely if this is the case the rpra and bhw shouldnt allow the advert due to false advertising and the extortionate price

[pjc]

now Peter, we are talking about the BHW & RPRA here, they will take any add if its paid for!

[Guest peter.j]

now Peter, we are talking about the BHW & RPRA here, they will take any add if its paid for!

sorry phil i had a bit of a brain storm lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

but if any body is interested i will be advertising the instructions from a pack of appertex in next weeks paper £40

[Guest]

 

Are you selling your secrets then!  ;D ;D ;D

Not to you ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[pjc]

Not to you ;D ;D ;D

 

 

know who your mates are! lol  

[Guest]

now Peter, we are talking about the BHW & RPRA here, they will take any add if its paid for!

 

And say in the small print that they do not accept any responsibility for the content of any advertisement :-/

[Guest]

 

know who your mates are! lol  

Free help to any one even you

 

 

[Guest Owen]

A fellow in my Club uses charcoal tablets for young birds. He is one of those irritating Fanciers who does not keep many pigeons, claims he knows nothing about widowhood and any other system and tans our hides regularly. He is usually the highest prize winner, and worst still, he is a really nice guy. If you want him in your Club, I'll ask him to transfer. He will probably not charge you much to get him, and to help you make up your mind, he is good at doing jobs about the Club. And I have never seen him raise his voice or argue with anyone in the last twenty years. Mind you he does keep on winning, sometimes he takes most of the prizes, but as I say a thoroughly nice chap.  

[Guest peter.j]

 

And say in the small print that they do not accept any responsibility for the content of any advertisement :-/

 

HEAR NO,SEE NO AND SPEAK NO EVIL APART FROM THAT WILL BE ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ FOR THE ADVERT

[BLACK W F]

thats not very nice whitenight  not telling your secrets  why you got a bird stashed away ha ha ha  not wanting to know that