pearse1888 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 what are " probiotics .. is it like natural youghurt or for example yahkult ? .. any replys would be appreciated Pearse
Guest IB Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 A probiotic is anything that contains live 'friendly' gut bacteria. Ranges from a yoghurt product, to freeze-dried powder products specially made for pigeons, added to food, or drinking water.
OLDYELLOW Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 what are " probiotics .. is it like natural youghurt or for example yahkult ? .. any replys would be appreciated Pearse live friend bacteria that colonise the gut wall like a defense mechanism for unfriendly bacteria that colonise the gut
OLDYELLOW Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 A probiotic is anything that contains live 'friendly' gut bacteria. Ranges from a yoghurt product, to freeze-dried powder products specially made for pigeons, added to food, or drinking water. beat me to it lol but only just lol
nogin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 I USE MAGIC OLD YELLOW DO YOU THINK THATS THE BEST. :-/
OLDYELLOW Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 I USE MAGIC OLD YELLOW DO YOU THINK THATS THE BEST. :-/ i use yoghurt theres alot of debate how much live bacteria is left but most companys say there is enough to colonise the gut , these must withstand bile im doing a bit of research into this at the moment with a company that makes cultures for yoghurt and cheese making ( although cheese is a different process )
OLDYELLOW Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 and as this has arisen again im back at it
pigeonpete Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 has anyone used yakult, i heard a guy once said he uses 1 a day in drinker?
wilkins Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 i use yakult on the food and dry with yeast
john@formula 1 lofts Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Primalac is a very good probiotic made for pigeons. http://www.primalac.com/
cass04 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 alot of probiotic products are being removed from shops or being forced to readvertise what they are supposed to do . there are no scientific facts to prove they do what they say they do....jakult is one of those products which have been ordered to readvertise
dwh Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 is entrodex still available used it years ago cracking stuff
blackdog Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 this is what i use, swear by it, cheap as well http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/166975_vita-pro_combo_150gm.php
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Yeah Entrodex is still available.. i think they call it Entrobiotic now tho..
wilkins Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 alot of probiotic products are being removed from shops or being forced to readvertise what they are supposed to do . there are no scientific facts to prove they do what they say they do....jakult is one of those products which have been ordered to readvertise i think yakult is good the first sign of wet dropping in ybs i used yakult this year and all was fine within tew days, its also a good agent to use to add powders to corn
dwh Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 this is what i use, swear by it, cheap as well http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/166975_vita-pro_combo_150gm.php cheers b/d try that
Guest strapper Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 the best probiotic is straight from the farm,otherwise by the time it reaches the shelves in shops a lot of the good probiotics has already died. just remember when you treat not to use probiotic yoghurt at the same time..it holds calcium and we all know how medications can be affected by calcium.
OLDYELLOW Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 alot of probiotic products are being removed from shops or being forced to readvertise what they are supposed to do . there are no scientific facts to prove they do what they say they do....jakult is one of those products which have been ordered to readvertise there are clear benifits and lots of scientific facts about live cultures and there probotic properties and there resistance to antibiotics below is a link to the various cultures issolated and there propertys which are benificial to animals and humans supporting the immune system i still find live yoghurt a cheap sorce of these live bacteria http://www.danisco.com/wps/wcm/connect/howaru/howaru/link_for_professionals/howaru_library.htm
OLDYELLOW Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 the best probiotic is straight from the farm,otherwise by the time it reaches the shelves in shops a lot of the good probiotics has already died. just remember when you treat not to use probiotic yoghurt at the same time..it holds calcium and we all know how medications can be affected by calcium. from talks of a manifacturer of live cultures theres enough live bacteria in the product when its used and enough to colonise the gut and can survive bile and acid and be excreted these live bacterias are very tough indeed , they do make frozen yoghurt also suply the live bacteria in a freezed dried form or even tablet form , im still in talks with this company
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