jimmy white Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 aldo,, sorry but i would take it to the vet live asap ,he will put this bird down then do a post mortem ,,,,, then get the rest of the teams ,droppings tested, at the same time , the vet will advise after this, what to do.
sapper756 Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 so wot you's r saying is it will never be 100% after an illness In my opinion, YES.
THE PRIEST Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 What ever you decide to do get it OUT of your young bird section and isolate it. Personaly i think you need to get rid off it and disinfect your young bird loft and have the other young birds droppings tested. michael.
Guest anthony Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 I have experiance this about 2 weeks ago infact I have asked here as well.It is adeniovirus and you have to kill all the sick birds,as I did if you don,t you will start finding dead birds every day.The others you have to treat with Colimix for 4 days in the water and adenosan on the food for 10 days.Ones treated they will be fine.Hope this help
pjc Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 A member in the club had youngbirds going down and dieing very quickly, no green but very watery droppings! He was picking birds up off the floor daily but failed to get advice until it was to late, he had 22 of his 38 yb's die, then his oldbirds started going down so he killed every bird in the loft! He should have had tests carried out earlier and would have had a chance to at least save the oldbirds! Phil
Guest paulrstokes Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 A good thread this with everyone giving honest opinion and advice. Correct to isolate, now find out what it is, either by swab etc, then do the obvious and disinfect drinkers and loft. Hopefully you can get to the bottom of it and know what to do in the future. I agree with a lot of previous posts, and I personally would get rid of any sick or weak young bird, I have only been like this for the last 3-4 years, previously I would try to nurse anything back to health. However having done this I have encountered the following issues. A sick or weak YB is always first to land, bringing the rest of your YB down also. Fine until you start training, and then it is the first to be lost, and you think why did I bother. If you do get it to a race, it always gets lost and costs you a fortune with Amtrack. I know it sounds harsh, but learn to be reasonble tough early on and it could save you a lot of time and effort later on.
jakjak Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 so what if they have all got it dispose of them all?[/quot Considering the symptoms given, I would have no hesitation in disposing of it, also any others who display these symptoms. Never known a sick youngster to turn out to be a good racer, however this is my style of management, and my opinion, not everybodies. Same here, any youngster with any type of weakness is out
Guest casbri Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 young birds that go light ar will not eat i dispose of them straight away...better safe than sorry
aldo1 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Posted May 14, 2008 youngbird dead this morning i know next time just to despose of them the faster there out the faster u can control the situation thanx for all the advice
aldo1 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Posted May 14, 2008 then you just clutter up the streets with more feral s that these anti s are having a field day with do the honarable thing with it and save yourself time and stop the spread of disease via the basket so i take it a pigeon can carry it without any symptoms and pass it on to other pigeons
sapper756 Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 youngbird dead this morning i know next time just to despose of them the faster there out the faster u can control the situation thanx for all the advice Unfortunately, some times we have to learn things the hard way m8 :-/ Good luck with the rest of your pigeons
billy wilson Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 i think going by symtoms looks like adeniovirus i would trea young birds as early as possible mate
Silverdale Lofts Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 aldo 1 have they been drinking out of the gutters on the house ? also i would take a crop swab and droppings from a few young birds and send them off to get tested i think you might have streptococcus while your waiting for results to come back get a 50g tub of amoxncillian from nigel cowood treat for 6 to 12 days i think you will find more young birds going down with the same problem.
jimmy white Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 no other birds have these symptoms just that one this is the odd bit???? just a possiblity, but see if any neighbours have put down weed killer , this is the time gardeners use it , its possible the bird has been poisoned , thats why i adviced post portem , sometimes we jump to conclusions , but as i said p.m. would be able to tell you
aldo1 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Posted May 15, 2008 yes the woman next door has put down weed killer but have not seen the birds down in her garden this could be the problem
hepste Posted May 15, 2008 Report Posted May 15, 2008 If the green fluid has a pungent unpleasant smell, it could be a condition known as sour crop. It can be treated if you wish.
aldo1 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Posted May 15, 2008 no it was not smelly it was just like green water
aldo1 Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Posted May 15, 2008 3 more young birds sick no wot the prob is now its a respiratory prob the older youngbirds can deal with it a bit easier were the younger ones cant i have got longstim witch should take care of the prob
Silverdale Lofts Posted May 15, 2008 Report Posted May 15, 2008 Aldo on page 2 i posted this will go through all your young birds doesnt matter if younger or older young birds if you dont send swab off or droppings you wont have a young bird left in a month.
Guest fergie Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 3 more young birds sick no wot the prob is now its a respiratory prob the older youngbirds can deal with it a bit easier were the younger ones cant i have got longstim witch should take care of the prob who dianosed it was respitory for you m8
ch pied Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 aldo 1 have they been drinking out of the gutters on the house ? also i would take a crop swab and droppings from a few young birds and send them off to get tested i think you might have streptococcus while your waiting for results to come back get a 50g tub of amoxncillian from nigel cowood treat for 6 to 12 days i think you will find more young birds going down with the same problem.agreed , a course of amoxi or furaltadone
jimmy white Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 3 more young birds sick no wot the prob is now its a respiratory prob the older youngbirds can deal with it a bit easier were the younger ones cant i have got longstim witch should take care of the prob sorry aldo,,, if this had been one single bird and the rest in perfect condition , as i had thought ,over a period of time , i would have said poison, but looking at the dates , then another 3 ill ,,,i would have to agree with above posts , same as i thought in my first post ,,,, if respiritory symtoms are there , this could be just secondry infections
pjc Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Other infections will become apparent with a bird that has Adenovirus and circovirus, The virus doesn't show itself but lowers the birds imune system allowing any other problems present to take over and the birds go down hill and die within hours. Phil p.s get them tested!
Guest shadow Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 you should get them tested ASAP then you will know what to treat for
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