DOVEScot Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Posted July 1, 2008 if there is no reaction in either eye and the pupils appear to have dispersed then he is blind and the kindest thing to do is despatch him as he won't be able to feed etc, let alone find his way around the loft. Phil Yes, just would really like to know what caused this to happen, no other birds seem to be affected
pjc Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 i have seen this in old birds getting old but only ever in 1 eye. They hve been able to adapt and live a normal life but a totaly blind bird has no chance. It may be worth contacting an avian vet and asking if it could have been caused by an infection. Phil
DOVEScot Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Posted July 1, 2008 i have seen this in old birds getting old but only ever in 1 eye. They hve been able to adapt and live a normal life but a totaly blind bird has no chance. It may be worth contacting an avian vet and asking if it could have been caused by an infection. Phil Yes I have one that is blind in one eye from an injury, probably send it for post mortem in any other birds show the same signs
Guest Vic Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 Try treating with Golden eye ointment or similar, asap. If it doesn't clear, consult the vet.
pjc Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 something in the depths of my mind tells me there is a possible cause but i'd only be guessing! Mind is very deep and full of rubbish! lol Phil
pjc Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 that would be a normal treatment vic but will not help a bird regain sight and if you look in the picture the pupil has gone! Phil
DOVEScot Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Posted July 1, 2008 Try treating with Golden eye ointment or similar, asap. If it doesn't clear, consult the vet. Cheers will try that tomorrow http://www.boots.com/shop/product_details.jsp?productid=1046454 It looks like a trip to the vet if I cannot find a solution
Guest Vic Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 that would be a normal treatment vic but will not help a bird regain sight and if you look in the picture the pupil has gone! Phil How anybody can say the pupil has gone, on a white pigeon, with a dark pigmentation type eye is beyond belief. Instead of pussyfooting about, Dovescot! Do what I said yesterday!
DOVEScot Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Posted July 1, 2008 How anybody can say the pupil has gone, on a white pigeon, with a dark pigmentation type eye is beyond belief. Instead of pussyfooting about, Dovescot! Do what I said yesterday! I just thought that someone on the site would have experienced this before, and looking for help, never realised it was in both eyes till I checked tonight when I finnished, Chickadee bathed it with a teabag as someone suggested and also tcp as someone suggested, £90 is a lot to fork out for a bird that has had a poke in the eye but nothing if it is a problem that could effect all out birds, so far only this one Two eyes effected is definately not due to damage as the bird has been isolated in a cage since yesterday
Guest Vic Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 Hold the pigeon lower than normal, then look down from above, and you will see whether the pupils have been injured or not. Where did you guys serve your time, Behind bars or in front of them? lol. Vic.
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 Hold the pigeon lower than normal, then look down from above, and you will see whether the pupils have been injured or not. Where did you guys serve your time, Behind bars or in front of them? lol. Vic. Still serving my time like all the rest of us, cannae be good at everything but at least I try. Maybe someday i will be as old and wise as you sir :-/ I euthanised it this morning as the eyes looked like they are well damaged inside, actually looked like they were disintigrating, hopefully a one off, no other birds have any signs of ailments. Just wondering if it has pecked at something poisonous while out flying :-/
Guest bigda Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 looks to me your bird has one of two thing happen it has had pigeon pox virus in the eye or its had a mild form of Para if its para virus it will be blind although, you jag for this, it will come to the fore a few years latter if not done with some birds annually
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 looks to me your bird has one of two thing happen it has had pigeon pox virus in the eye or its had a mild form of Para if its para virus it will be blind although, you jag for this, it will come to the fore a few years latter if not done with some birds annually We inject every year for PMV, the bird showed no other signs of ill heath, he always got a dirty wattle when feeding, his droppings were fine and his throat was clear and normal colour, his youngster is also looking really healthy as well, I have caged it just in case so I can keep a eye on it I may try and use this product this year, a combined vaccine injection for PMV and pigeon pox http://www.everythingforpets.com/_apos_2_in_1_apos_pmv_pox_pigeon_vaccine.pet/use.id.5.item_id.852.dept.162/ Also I have a cock in the loft that feeds anything that comes near it, I have seen him feed five youngsters on the loft floor, he has a yellow wattle as well
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 never seen anything like it before It seems nobody has, even the other fanciers I know that are not on the site :-/
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 I think he means paratyphoid and paramyxo Who, sorry I missed the link out http://www.everythingforpets.com/_apos_2_in_1_apos_pmv_pox_pigeon_vaccine.pet/use.id.5.item_id.852.dept.162/
pjc Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Bigda said it could be a form of para! I think he's refering to paratyphoid and not paramyxo which you link is to vaccine for! Phil
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 Bigda said it could be a form of para! I think he's refering to paratyphoid and not paramyxo which you link is to vaccine for! Phil Cheers
Guest bigda Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 the illness favors paramaxo for the reason you have jagged, as the paratyphoid shows all sorts of twist,and strange looks from the birds , your is a more milder form, paramaxo although jagged this virus is known to effect birds a second time its possible it had paramaxo early in life when you injected it and you can never tell when it can strike iT has been known more to appear when billing and feeding very young in the nest keep this bird in a seperate box but its 6 week min to recover but is not going to be able to see from on or both eyes.
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 the illness favors paramaxo for the reason you have jagged, as the paratyphoid shows all sorts of twist,and strange looks from the birds , your is a more milder form, paramaxo although jagged this virus is known to effect birds a second time its possible it had paramaxo early in life when you injected it and you can never tell when it can strike iT has been known more to appear when billing and feeding very young in the nest keep this bird in a seperate box but its 6 week min to recover but is not going to be able to see from on or both eyes. I tried looking for paratyphoid vaccine but I have had no success, only found PMV and pigeon pox vaccine, we always do our birds in october after the breeding season
REDCHEQHEN Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 You won't find paRatyphoid vaccine - as its not approved in the UK
jimmy white Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 most definitely caused by either latent ,or carrier of paratyphoid. think youve did the best thing dovey [such a cracker too ] a pity, but its really the rest of the birds ,now you have to think of, def see avian vet for advice and get p.m.
DOVEScot Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 most definitely caused by either latent ,or carrier of paratyphoid. think youve did the best thing dovey [such a cracker too ] a pity, but its really the rest of the birds ,now you have to think of, def see avian vet for advice and get p.m. No signs of ill health in any other birds, he has always filled eggs and raised good youngsters, a strong dominant cock in the loft You have to send a live bird if you want a post mortem carried out , don't know why but that is the way they want them, if I get any more going down I will get one done, meantime i will get cross section of droppings tested
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