ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 soul distroying as it is cull clean start again but inject fanciers moan about injecting yearly but this is and does happen and its not nice
pjc Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 there is a new strain of paramyxo is there not! Is this not what the Scotland oneloft had? Phil
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 ive used Virkon ,s to disinfect the loft This will kill off any germs that are in your loft but not help your birds, tell your vet to get his finger out or use another one and report to him how your birds were maltreated :-/
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 soul distroying as it is cull clean start again but inject fanciers moan about injecting yearly but this is and does happen and its not nice Unless they are tested it could be a number of things not just paramyxo :-/
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 im gna go first thing in the morning to the vets and tell him to check my bird properly hes basically ripped me of £67 and gave me sumat that does not work
OLDYELLOW Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 anyone whos seen this disease knows what it looks like the vet in question obviously has not seen this disease before and i agree has treated blind , and precribed a broadspectrum antibiotic that has no effect on this disease whatsoever , id pay them a visit with these findings if were me , i use a hygene labority vet who specialises in Avian and does tests on all lifestock goverment approved as well i believe
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 im gna go first thing in the morning to the vets and tell him to check my bird properly hes basically ripped me of £67 and gave me sumat that does not work Take a sick bird with you or a cross section of the droppings from the loft, they normally want a live pigeon to post mortem :-/
Simeon Turner Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 I would probably think that is it Paramyxo, BUT as Dovescot said it could be a number of Ailments - If I were you I would contact Retford Poultry - Get the droppings tested and have some blood tests taken (blood tests are the only way you can detect a virus) - In the meantime, feed the other birds a light feed with electrolight in the water. Some birds can get over Paramyxo (that is fact) - and after they have recovered can go on to breed without passing the virus onto their offspring. - What I would do is see if the birds recover, isolate the ones that do look bad, vaccinate the others, then see how it goes. Best of luck - trust me you are better having paramyxo, rather than, paratyphoid or Adeno Virus, these could wipe you out!
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 ive just had another look at the bird he seems fine when he is sat down but when he moves arround its like he has no ballance and also when he eats he shacking his head arround to get the seed in
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 I would probably think that is it Paramyxo, BUT as Dovescot said it could be a number of Ailments - If I were you I would contact Retford Poultry - Get the droppings tested and have some blood tests taken (blood tests are the only way you can detect a virus) - In the meantime, feed the other birds a light feed with electrolight in the water. Some birds can get over Paramyxo (that is fact) - and after they have recovered can go on to breed without passing the virus onto their offspring. - What I would do is see if the birds recover, isolate the ones that do look bad, vaccinate the others, then see how it goes. Best of luck - trust me you are better having paramyxo, rather than, paratyphoid or Adeno Virus, these could wipe you out! Their neck also tilts like that with salmonella and meningitis :-/
Simeon Turner Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 Their neck also tilts like that with salmonella and meningitis :-/ Spot on Dovescot
Guest shadow Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 get rid of all the birds and deep clean the loft preferably with a flame gun before putting any more birds in it
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 ill take him to the a differnt vet tommorow and see wot they say
pjc Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 rather than just finding another vet that could be just as bad or worse, have a look for a defra aproved vet or an avian specialist! Phil
Guest IB Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 The symptoms you describe could be caused by a number of different illnesses, including at least two viral and two bacterial. First thing is to isolate this bird from the rest. Put in a box by itself with no contact with the others. Next, you have got to get an urgent appointment with an avian vet - a vet that specialises in birds - only the vet can tell what is really wrong with the bird, what is really causing it, and what to do about it.
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 get rid of all the birds and deep clean the loft preferably with a flame gun before putting any more birds in it Would that not be the last resort and only when he finds out what is wrong with them first, You can still scorch the loft and treat the birds if it is treatable surely, remember this guy is new to pigeons and culling all his stock may finnish him off from keeping birds in the future :-/
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 rather than just finding another vet that could be just as bad or worse, have a look for a defra aproved vet or an avian specialist! Phil Where are you from Amar :-/ This is the avian vet approved by the National Pigeon association http://www.nationalpigeonassociation.co.uk/#/avianvets/4527427149
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 to be honest with you i wouldnt have the heart to kill the birds
frank-123 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 cant see any vet doing this in the uk because the symtoms sound simlar to parmaxyo defra would need to be informed hope your birds don't have it mate because there has been a lot of cases this year
ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 we as fanciers hope its not para for you but if it is im sure we can put you on road to happyness again
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 im from bradford westyorkshire Try this one http://www.izvg.co.uk/useful_info.html
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 thank you every1 that replyd i have put him in a box away from the other birds i,ll see wot the vets have to say about it tomarrow i will keep you informed of the out come
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