water everywhere

[Guest wattle]

no mice in the loft either,an earwig would not get into this loft

[blaz]

is this air born  drinker or touch  if its one of the later two mine are going in bucket

[Guest wattle]

what cure is there for paramyxo virus

[mac1]

 

THATS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE MY BIRDS HAD IT LAST YEAR IT WAS A NIGHTMARE THEY WOULDNT STOP DRINKING THE WHOLE LOFT WAS SOAKING THEN THE HEADS STARTED TO TURN HAD TO KILL ABOUT 10 BIRDS KEEP CLEANING YOUR LOFT OUT EVERYDAY AND GET TO THE VET SOON AS POSS. I REALY HOPE IT ISNT M8 BUT GET IT SORTED SOON AS   :(

 

i know what i would of done.feel sorry for you mate really hope you get it sorted good luck  

 

[Guest]

some treatments for canker only treat for 1 type of canker!! a 5 day course wit rodinadizole (i cant spell) or flagil liquid should cure it

[Guest wattle]

young bird sickness does it not only affect youngbirds, all my stock birds have it aswell.

[Guest]

em i think young bird sickness is a virus and i just think it is nicknamed young bird sickness, tho the symptoms shoulnt be severe in old birds!! thats why i would treat for canker or get your droppings teasted!

[boxer]

young bird sickness does it not only affect youngbirds, all my stock birds have it aswell.

IT WILL GO THROUGH THEM ALL M8 IT ATTACKS THERE AMUNE SYSTEMS OR SOMETHING. SOME WILL COME THROUGH IT OTHERS MIGHT GO STUPID JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THEM AND GET TO THE VETS STRAIGHT AWAY

 

 

[Guest]

if its yb sickness! your suppose to treat against cocci, canker etc as it lets all these diseases in

[jimmy white]

what cure is there for paramyxo virus

 

unfortunately any pigeon that has  recovered from paramyxio virus, is normally left with serious defects..

 

better with prevention,, vaccination with  nobilis or any other paramyxio vaccine, should provide immunity

 

it is a must, to see an avian vet

 

 

[Tony C]

some treatments for canker only treat for 1 type of canker!! a 5 day course wit rodinadizole (i cant spell) or flagil liquid should cure it

 

The problem treating willy nilly is that you could compound the problem. If you mix some medicine or other in the drinker and they're drinking over the amount than they should you'll end up overdosing them.

[Guest]

Most viruses have some colour to droppings, or other signs, even death with the serious ones.

 

I had paramyxo in loft years back, yes the floor was like a swimming pool, but there was also very obvious signs, but it does spread very quick. Vaccinated birds still had the wet droppings, but got no other signs.

 

Depends if there any other signs, but apart from medicating (something like tremoxin) i would withhold all food and water for 24 hours then feed 100% tic beans then place water back in and remove it when they all drank.

 

BTW i was told LPW had a delay of 6 weeks backlog for orders, maybe this the reason why???

[Guest]

Wet canker? never heard of it. The birds have either paramyxo virus, or the first stages of yb sickness. Good Luck, you'll need it!

 

Surprised by that Vic, thought you knew a bit!  ;D

 

Could always try the torch yourself!!

 

 

[Guest]

Most viruses have some colour to droppings, or other signs, even death with the serious ones.

 

I had paramyxo in loft years back, yes the floor was like a swimming pool, but there was also very obvious signs, but it does spread very quick. Vaccinated birds still had the wet droppings, but got no other signs.

 

Depends if there any other signs, but apart from medicating (something like tremoxin) i would withhold all food and water for 24 hours then feed 100% tic beans then place water back in and remove it when they all drank.

 

BTW i was told LPW had a delay of 6 weeks backlog for orders, maybe this the reason why???

 

yes ad schearlaekens says in his book in case of yb sickness to withdraw all food, is there crops always full?

 

[blaz]

not with my 2

[Guest Davy Fleming]

Obviously not sure what it is but know one thing without even thinking about it  it certainly  isn't canker and certainly not young bird sickness so don't waste time and money on treating them for that.  As the lad earlier said you really need some urgent advice from a vet or someone who knows about testing . Where do you come from ?

[jimmy white]

i got 12 jan ardens from louella ten days ago, two days after the were squirting clear water out of them, thought it would clear with probiotics,now the whole loft has it,every single bird young and old 70 birds down with it, even young in nests.all still eating and drinking alot of water. water everywhere never seen anything like it in 30 years of pigeon keeping.

ps, before i got the louella birds everything was perfect.   :-/

 

no good in guessing,, best see  avian vet  asap.

 

wet canker is  just a name weve given   for bowel canker

[Guest strapper]

i would suggest a vet asap...but my thoughts on this would be you have either one of these 3 problems...

salmonella.......e coli........or para.

if you have any..fural. this stays in the stomach for a while but doesnt enter the blood stream where some infection could be..the best choice would be baytril it doesnt stay in the gut as long as fural but does reach more area,s of infection then fural...baytril should only be used as an option when all else fails.

 

another medication thats useful is belgamco.

 

try this site...see if your wet droppings are like this..

http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/treatment-plan/specificinfections-paramyxovirosis.php

[Guest]

Obviously not sure what it is but know one thing without even thinking about it  it certainly  isn't canker and certainly not young bird sickness so don't waste time and money on treating them for that.  As the lad earlier said you really need some urgent advice from a vet or someone who knows about testing . Where do you come from ?

 

Theres only two illnesses i've seen that have clear wattery droppings, Para being one, canker being the other, its not always a yellowy deposit, any fancier thinking that is wrongly mistaken! I don't give them the names, leave that to the medical specialists, but there is a "wet" canker and is also confused with resp problems, as its mainly in the throat and nasal areas.

 

 

[Guest wattle]

can pigeons that are injecked for paramyxo virus pass the desease to pigeons that where not injected for the desease.

[Guest]

can pigeons that are injecked for paramyxo virus pass the desease to pigeons that where not injected for the desease.

 

Mine injected ones still showed minor symptoms (wet droppings) and as your not supposed to mix newly vacc'd birds with non vacc'd birds i'd say yes.

 

 

[NW USA]

You should quarintine new arrivals, time to talk to a vet. Don't use a shotgun approach for treatment.

[sandra p]

if it was paramax old birds should not be infected they have resistance and infection would take weeks not days e coli or other similair bacterial

[Guest wattle]

thats the problem then, i just seen on the sheet of paper from louella thet all the birds where injected and my are not injected yet, fu-k.

[Guest]

if it was paramax old birds should not be infected they have resistance and infection would take weeks not days e coli or other similair bacterial

 

sandra i had it in mine all my racers were vacc'd but they still showed symptoms, my stock were'nt vacc'd but they all showed symptoms too, one fatally. I'd say it was 36/48 hours from when i noticed the first one (and removed it) til i had symptons in ALL lofts.