pearse1888 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 have a few birds and there roof of the mouth is shut .. i hear when its opened fully the birds are usually in good nick .. is this a bad sign when some are shut ?
Guest bigda Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 yes, they must be breathing through there beaks could be respiratory or the bloom is not getting out no air flow
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 I was once told that when tract opened they where not in good nick and that when shut they where in top form and if you put the bird to you ear and listen to it breathing when shut it should purr like a pussy cat if open and you hear crackly noise i.e. birds stuggling to breathe this lad won most weeks and have been interested in this subject for a long time can anyone give me more info ???? :-/ :-/ :-/ Thanks Bryan
Ian McKay Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 I was once told that when tract opened they where not in good nick and that when shut they where in top form and if you put the bird to you ear and listen to it breathing when shut it should purr like a pussy cat if open and you hear crackly noise i.e. birds stuggling to breathe this lad won most weeks and have been interested in this subject for a long time can anyone give me more info ???? :-/ :-/ :-/ Thanks Bryan Yes Bryan Go on holiday as planned ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Taylorsloft Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Yes Bryan Go on holiday as planned ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and keep your respiratory tract shut :P 8)
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Yes Bryan Go on holiday as planned ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nae ready yet Ian
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 and keep your respiratory tract shut :P 8) Now mr taylor dont go there you know what happens when you open your gob
Williedoo Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Is someone going to keep Bryan right as this will worry him all day now.
Ian McKay Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Is someone going to keep Bryan right as this will worry him all day now. Naw he's off to Glasgow :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
Williedoo Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Naw he's off to Glasgow :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Never knew he cleaned windows in Glasgow.
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Never knew he cleaned windows in Glasgow. There more money in glasgow to many misers in aberdeen wullie I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR EVEN YOU WULLIE ;D ;D ;D CYA ALL LATER BRYAN
pigeonpete Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Lets keep to topic please :-) you included Mr Mckay ;D ;D ;D
Ian McKay Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Lets keep to topic please :-) you included Mr Mckay ;D ;D ;D Sorry
Guest Jargre- Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 have a few birds and there roof of the mouth is shut .. i hear when its opened fully the birds are usually in good nick .. is this a bad sign when some are shut ?Its fine in cold weather as long as there is no gunk or red inflammation, slit in pallet can close to reduce chill of air going down into lungs. Nothing to worry about.
Guest IB Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 I don't think that you can look at or think about this particular bit on its own. It is part of how the bird breathes, and excepting for injury, or illness, in my opinion it must be open all the time, at least to some degree, because when the bird's beak is closed the top part [choana] and bottom part [glottis?] meet to form an airtight seal. Any problem here and the bird would need to breathe through its open beak. A bird doing that is usually a sign that something is wrong. The airflow [cold] comes in through the nostrils, into the sinuses behind the eyes [to warm the air] then down through the choana and glottis into the wind pipe, lungs and air sacs. Same happens in reverse, except its warm air from the air sacs that goes into the sinuses where moisture is condensed out of it to help conserve water lost from the lungs.
Guest Jargre- Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 I don't think that you can look at or think about this particular bit on its own. It is part of how the bird breathes, and excepting for injury, or illness, in my opinion it must be open all the time, at least to some degree, because when the bird's beak is closed the top part [choana] and bottom part [glottis?] meet to form an airtight seal. Any problem here and the bird would need to breathe through its open beak. A bird doing that is usually a sign that something is wrong. The airflow [cold] comes in through the nostrils, into the sinuses behind the eyes [to warm the air] then down through the choana and glottis into the wind pipe, lungs and air sacs. Same happens in reverse, except its warm air from the air sacs that goes into the sinuses where moisture is condensed out of it to help conserve water lost from the lungs. Sorry to disagree here IB and this is after just having a chat with a vet because I ain't one. She reckoned that the cold can do this to a bird and its perfectly fine as long as there's no infection.
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