Chlorine in tap water

[DOVEScot]

 

Well ask chickadee and she will tell u . :D :D :D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest Hjaltland]

http://www.chloramine.org/chloraminefacts.htm

 

This is the stuff the water board are putting in our water... mass medication or what.

[DOVEScot]

 

Well ask chickadee and she will tell u . :D :D :D

 

Just been informed by ma wee chickadee, You'll need a dentist for the last time any mare of your lip

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Just been informed by ma wee chickadee, You'll need a dentist for the last time any mare of your lip[/size] ;D ;D ;D

 

tell her somebody posted using my name , was not me honest  ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

 

tell her somebody posted using my name , was not me honest  ;D ;D ;D

 

Puck puck puck paaaaaaaa puck puck puck puck ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Puck puck puck paaaaaaaa puck puck puck puck ;D ;D ;D

 

nae wonder, she is one scarey woman  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

 

nae wonder, she is one scarey woman  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Aye its the strong irish blood in her ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Aye its the strong irish blood in her ;D

 

aye and hope mine is staying inside me  ;D

[DOVEScot]

 

aye and hope mine is staying inside me  ;D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Aye us men like to hang on to ours ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Aye us men like to hang on to ours ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

aye we sure doo  ;D

[me]

http://www.chloramine.org/chloraminefacts.htm

 

This is the stuff the water board are putting in our water... mass medication or what.

 

As far as I remember when I was at the school before the "authorities" started this terrible "mass medication" ten of thousands of people used to die from water borne diseases,

 

Get real for God sake!!

 

[DOVEScot]

 

As far as I remember when I was at the school before the "authorities" started this terrible "mass medication" ten of thousands of people used to die from water borne diseases,

 

Get real for God sake!!

 

Aye, better to live to a ripe old age, drinking posibly the best quality water in the world, than die at an early age with all the diseases that were about not that long ago, where else can you drink water freely out the tap

Bottled water is dearer/litre than any other liquid, including petrol ;D

[Guest]

 

As far as I remember when I was at the school before the "authorities" started this terrible "mass medication" ten of thousands of people used to die from water borne diseases,

 

Get real for God sake!!

 

Agree - tv programmes on Victorian engineering feats like the design and building of the London sewage system bring it home, names like the engineer 'bazzlejet' [maybe not correct spelling] and the Doctor Smith? who identified drinking water contaminated with raw sewage as the source of annual cholera outbreaks in the City.

 

But there are downsides, these are poisonous chemicals and not only are there human and environmental health risks from using them, they can give a false sense of security. They don't kill all the nasties in the drinking water supply - like cryptosporidium for example.

[Clarkey1990]

 

How much would that cost in real currency ?       (Scottish Pounds ) ;D

 

2 or 3 i think

[sergmatt]

I have a simple and cheap solution for all of you that wish to easily remove the Chlorine or Chloramine from your bird's water

 

I have been keeping both pigeons and aquariums for several years and there are a couple of De-Chlorinator products sold for aquariums that I use for my water bowls in my lofts.  Where I live in California the chlorine level can be pretty high in our water, so definitely when I am using vitamins and medications I always dechlorinate my water.

 

Here is one of the products:  http://www.amazon.com/JUNGLE-LABORATORIES-Instachlor-Liquid-oz/dp/B000255ZSK

 

It is called "Instachlor" and it is made by Jungle Laboratories.  The dosage is 2 Drops Per Gallon.  Stir or Agitate the water a little and it instantly removes the chlorine.  It is very cheap and a bottle lasts forever.  Besides Amazon, you can also find this product from several other online aquarium merchants.

 

The other product I use you can actually find at Wal-Mart in the Aquarium/Pet Section for about $2.00.  It is called "Chlor Out" and made by a brand called Wardley.  The dosage for this is 5 drops per gallon.

 

There are several other aquarium products that remove chlorine, but most of them have other additives (specifically for fish).  The two products I listed above are very basic and do exaxtly what we need as far as pigeons (just remove the chlorine).

[Guest TAMMY_1]

a piece i was shown about chlorine

 

The "Miracle" Of Chlorine

 

The addition of common household bleach to the drinking water does, indeed, have beneficial effects on pigeon health.

 

This seems a little weird since the drinking of cholrinated water has negative implications in human health, especially with suggestions that it may be incriminated in the increased rate of cancer.

 

Chlorine is a strong chemical which binds to most organic molecules and can change their chemical identity, making some non-toxic compounds become toxic.

 

Personally, I use a filter on my drinking water which removes chlorine; but my pigeons drink a lot of it with what I percieve as beneficial effects. NEVER PUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THE DRINKING WATER AT THE SAME TIME AS CHLORINE.

 

The ususal method of treating the drinking water is to add 1 to 2 teaspoonsful of common household bleach, such as Clorox or Purex, to each gallon of water. The amount varies depending on the temperature. When it is hot the chlorine leaves the water faster, so use more; when it is cold, it leaves the water slowly so use less.

 

Chlorine is a very strong disinfectant and keeps the water-transmission of disease organisms to a minimum. Most diseases of pigeons can be spread via the drinking water, so the judicious use of a disinfectant can prevent some of the things that our pigeons may be exposed to.

 

There may be a hidden benefit as well: the increased consumption of chlorine, which in turn is eliminated by the kidneys, produces a more acid urine. The urine is excreted along with the feces.(it is the white cap on the feces) This net result is a more acidic dropping. Salmonella, and other bacteria, dislikes an acidic environment.

 

This may decrease the environmental proliferation of the bacteria, making it less likely for pigeons to contract an infective dose. This is theory, and not proven scientific fact, so thake it for what it is worth. I have given it a lot of thought and concluded that this is why lofts that deal with paratyphoid do better after treatment, if the birds are kept on this chlorinated water.

 

I handled convention race birds this last spring/summer. The only thing that I did for the birds was to keep them on chlorinated water. Mine was the only loft that experienced no sick pigeons. Is that coincidence? I think it probably isn't.

 

I also theorize that drinking this chlorinated water has a negative influence on the trichomonads in the oral cavity. I need to do some simple research to confirm this but, in my mind, it should have some effect on the numbers of these organisms. It at least will minimize the water transmission of trichomonas; and this is the main route of spread.

 

Remember: NEVER PUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME AS CHLORINE. IT WILL PROBABLY NEUTRALIZE THESE COMPOUNDS OR RENDER THEM TOXIC TO THE BIRDS . When wanting to give vitamins or a treatment for coccicia, worms, or trichomonas, etc., simply leave out the chlorine for those days and then resume when the dosing is completed.

 

Household bleach should not be considered a treatment, but only a preventive measure.  

 

ALSO NOT AN ORIGINAL BIT OF WRITING ON MY PART, THIS WAS COPIED AND PASTED  

[nogin]

VERY GOOD WEB SITE TAMMY.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

is ee what you mean thats a tip im going to use from now on cheers

[phillips]

i always fill 2x3 ltr bottles of water at night for birds for the next day  

[Guest slugmonkey]

I deal with pool water a lot and can tell you 1st hand that U.V. rays will drastically break down chlorine

A LOT of people on here have said they use bleach in the drinker

I am a vinegar man and do not use bleach

[Guest TAMMY_1]

would chlorine in the water have a pernicious effect on the properties of garlic  if it was added at the same time ?

[Tony C]

would chlorine in the water have a pernicious effect on the properties of garlic  if it was added at the same time ?

 

I always let water stand for 24 hours before I put it before the pigeons. This gives it time for the chlorine to dissipate, takes any doubts away if you want to mix anything in it and costs nowt to do  ;D

[mark]

i just use a walter filter but then i only have 12 birds.