Disturibing News on Young Bird Death's

[Guest]

JarGre if you feel your birds are at risk of entering a loft that could potentially have PMV after only a short 30-40 mile training toss then I suggest you keep you pigeons locked up, because the risk of your birds entering another possibly infected loft from a race of 150 miles or so, in my mind must be greater. So are you saying that evryone on your line of flight from a race point should tell you thay have a virus. Sorry you must live in cuckoo land, cos it ain't going to happen. Sorry I'm not "pickin" at you just being logical.

[Guest chrisss]

how do you know if your birds have not gone down for a drink at a loft which has not "declared" anything,how far do you have to take it?

[pjc]

If your birds need to go down for a drink from any race under 300m I would sugest they were not sent in the right condition unless there are exceptional circumstances. Certainly wouldn't expect or want to see a trainer go down for a drink!

[gooner]

well said vallence

[Guest]

Interesting reading through the posts although it seems to have left the original topic (if the original author requests the topic can be split)

 

My own take on it is especially regarding the line of flight and training route is that the risk to the birds is far greater from being mixed in the basket for racing than that of crossing over an infected loft or even area.

 

I don't doubt that for a second Vallance and agree with you.  That said, wouldn't you agree though that my concern is not a bad thing?  I'm not on a witch-hunt to find out who's got what for the sake of it, I'm out to protect my birds by minimizing the risks nothing more.  Yes our birds are jabbed but I don't hold my breath to that being foolproof so caution should be taken in my book.

 

That said it appears that answers for whatever reason aren't forthcoming so I'll leave it to the valley's of Wales being very close and let the jungle drums to reach me and until then I'll wait with caution.   If they do catch it through the basket then at least I'll be able to narrow it down to that.

 

What this topic has opened up, and I do agree its split some, is what if other fanciers had outbreaks of illness in their areas, would they want to be kept informed at all times or don't they care?  

 

 

 

[pjc]

if in doubt leave them at home!

[Gail J]

I was unable to post this afternoon as it was quite busy in work. if you are unsure as to training your birds, yes I agree with pjc keep them in the loft, as for the valleys of Wales being close well yes we are, not everyone likes the thought of their name being aired on a chat forum and I for one will not do that. If the need is desperate to find out where the areas are then contact defra. anyone could have it and not report it, then you have the sensible ones that do.

[Guest bigda]

I was unable to post this afternoon as it was quite busy in work. if you are unsure as to training your birds, yes I agree with pjc keep them in the loft, as for the valleys of Wales being close well yes we are, not everyone likes the thought of their name being aired on a chat forum and I for one will not do that. If the need is desperate to find out where the areas are then contact defra. anyone could have it and not report it, then you have the sensible ones that do.

 

totally agree there gail,   but  there are some jokers in the sport   that are tighter than two coats of paint, and  will not  spend the  money on the vaccine

[Guest numpty01]

any birds as stated that goes down on toss of thirty miles should never have been sent in first place some need to learn a bit more about birds and the way they fly and im sure that defra will ease any worrys some might have that there birds may catch it flying over area were birds are infected im going to bring this up with all fed secs over weekend and point out some fanciers feel that change flight path will help us all i shall let you know there comments

[Guest numpty01]

 

Have you changed your name to Gail lately?   How the hell is it unreasonable to ask?  I asked because I have a right to ask and it was a justified request as simple as that.  Don't try and tell me about flight paths either I'm more than aware of what I do thanks.   If it meant having to stop training the birds or even training them another direction I would if it meant keeping the birds safe and I'm sure that as a learned fancier yourself you'd do that same wouldn't you?   :-/   :X

 

 

to answer the last comment on this post no   as im not paranoid and know infected birds notified to defra will be under lock key not in the air and i would have to be exstreamly unlucky for one of my birds to pop into one of the lofts kick door down and catch it ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest IB]

My own take on it is especially regarding the line of flight and training route is that the risk to the birds is far greater from being mixed in the basket for racing than that of crossing over an infected loft or even area.

 

I think the fear arises from general misunderstanding that the disease is spread through the air (airborne) and from that,  that a pigeon flying over an area can be infected?

 

I agree that most likely spread is close contact, bird to bird, either in a loft, or in a basket, or by fanciers spreading it themselves between lofts e.g. on clothing contaminated by the virus, and eventually infecting birds, again through close contact, fancier & bird..