catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 While handling all my birds today i picked up a blue cock and on examining his wing i found one of his flight had been eaten the full top half of the flight is missingit looks like it has been cut with a pair of scissors but the quil is still there it seems something has eaten the feathers on both sides of the quil does anyone know what may have caused this and should i pull the flight out to let it regrow
bewted Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 sounds like a moth ! but,might be wrong too !
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 The moth must have good straight teeth
bewted Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 The moth must have good straight teeth you would be suprised what a moth can do to birds feathers,,,read about it,then you will know more instead or stupid remarks like must have straight teeth !
Guest IB Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 Don't know of anything in nature that would eat feather away from the shaft leaving just the bare shaft? But if its the whole top part of the feather, shaft too, that's gone, its likely to have been a fret mark thats broken off. Wait till bird has regrown 10th primary then pull the defective one, it'll grow back in no bother.
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 you would be suprised what a moth can do to birds feathers,,,read about it,then you will know more instead or stupid remarks like must have straight teeth ! sorry i didnt know it was a silly remark no need to read il take ibs advice and yes it has left the shaft il pull it out and il put some moth balls in my loft MERRY XMAS
Guest IB Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 you would be suprised what a moth can do to birds feathers,,,read about it,then you will know more instead or stupid remarks like must have straight teeth ! For the record, moths do not have chewing mouthparts, so cannot damage anything, far less feathers. What moths do is mate and lay eggs. Eggs hatch into grubs. Grubs eat. But nothing grub-like would survive in a pigeon loft given that pigeons eat grubs too.
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 For the record, moths do not have chewing mouthparts, so cannot damage anything, far less feathers. What moths do is mate and lay eggs. Eggs hatch into grubs. Grubs eat. But nothing grub-like would survive in a pigeon loft given that pigeons eat grubs too. there we have it so it cant be moths its a mystery to me its a clean cut i will pull it out and il just put it down to a mystery
Guest IB Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 there we have it so it cant be moths its a mystery to me its a clean cut i will pull it out and il just put it down to a mystery Can you put up a picture of the damaged feather?
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 Yes i will put a picture up before i pull it out
pjc Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 you sure he hasn't damaged it in the loft? Have you got wire on the front or a wire aviary he could have caught the flight on flying against the wire?
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 you sure he hasn't damaged it in the loft? Have you got wire on the front or a wire aviary he could have caught the flight on flying against the wire? i dont have any wire where he could have got damages i have louvres
Guest bigbok Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 it also looks like mice damage !!! a bit cold for moths this time of the year but mice are very active but moths do a whole lot of damage also and they can cut knaw in straight lines !!!
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 it also looks like mice damage !!! a bit cold for moths this time of the year but mice are very active but moths do a whole lot of damage also and they can cut knaw in straight lines !!! Moths dont have teeth as stated above and wouls a pigeon sit there while a mouse chewed on its feathers
Guest IB Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 Damage reminds me of a post + pic Jimmy White put up a couple of years ago which showed a feather that had been burned by a cigarette / cigarette ash.
catchthepigeon Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 IT Cant be my pigeons dont smoke ;D i dont smoke in my loft either
Guest grizzler Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 it also looks like mice damage !!! a bit cold for moths this time of the year but mice are very active but moths do a whole lot of damage also and they can cut knaw in straight lines !!! would have to agree a few years ago had a lot of show birds ruined over a couple of days by mice collecting the feathers for building a nest
degi Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 fungal infection on quil pigeon prunes itself feathers pull out ?
Guest bigbok Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 Moths dont have teeth as stated above and wouls a pigeon sit there while a mouse chewed on its feathers yer catch the pigeon they would especially if they are perched or roosting or sitting as for teeth on moths are you an entomologist !!! im not on about a set of simon cowel gnashers you no !!! ;) ;)
Guest bigbok Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 i ve had massive moth problems in the past and they DO EAT FEATHERS mouth parts or not are you absoloutly sure of this coz im not but have seen the damage done by moths and mice before
Guest Freebird Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 Don't think the mouse opened the wing and picked an awkward feather to eat. Surely if there was a posibility of a mouse eating feathers while the bird casually looked on it would pick something easier like the edge of a tail feather. Put it down to damage but if it continues then then you have serious probs.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 are yous realy sugesting a bird will sit in the one place and let a mouse eat feathers :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
Guest slugmonkey Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 Do you have any neighbors that fly fish ? I would be on the lookout for a guy with small scissors and a fly tying vise.
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