Guest joshdonlan Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 sounds like naturaline what you put in the water. Thats what i use and it has similar effects.
stantheman Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 Josh naturaline is an excellent product as well as long as you give it them regularly, i find that the people who say these things are no good or dont make a difference only use it once or twice expecting miracles immediatley instead of testing it out properly over a sustained time period
Guest the gers Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 i use all there products i mix ad herd to a bag of feed at a time. its really for young in the nested.
Guest stevie-b Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 i use it also wouldna be withooot it
big blue bar Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 i started using it start of last season old birds did realy well best season we ve had in a long time i would def recomend it
Guest IB Posted November 10, 2009 Report Posted November 10, 2009 Very interested as to why you say the above is tosh,surely they would have evidence that it does what it says, or else they could be in trouble if someone proved different. Tony, the original claim for how this product worked was that it was thought to strip the gut wall lining, which immediately renewed itself. Now it only lifts part of it, and only 'hard' parts at that - with pathogens in it? If that was true that would mean your birds were shedding these live? pathogens daily into your loft environment. The gut wall lining is of course the mucous that the wall secretes to protect itself, chemically, by forming an alkaline barrier between it and the more acid gut 'middle' & contents. It is also a chemical part of the immune system patrolled by 'white blood cells' which prevent invasion by pathogens through the gut wall. It is also lined by 'good bacteria' up to 10 organisms thick which not only protect the wall from colonisation by pathogens by both killing them, crowding and starving them out, they also help in digestion. The gut wall, mucous membrane good bacteria and white blood cells are a delicate balance linked in special ways that ensure the body knows exactly what nasties are present, what is needed to kill them and where these should be sent. The last thing it needs is some or all of it stripped out and dumped on the loft floor. I do not see how anyone can claim that doing that would be beneficial to the bird.
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