diet mix

[wilkins]

can any one explain to me the use of diet mix please

my feeding is

protein after hard flight peas etc, if easy flight add barley based for the early part of the week

middle week light feed barley based

start  from the wednesday  a high carcohydrate feed depending on distance ,,,add fats at certain mileage

 

would a diet mix be better at some point

[wilkins]

and looking at the grains in the diet mix, the word diet seems a little misleading

[taffacre]

tried all the diet mixes and they all work but they seem to have drastically increased in price.Personally my opinion is that the best you can use in Versa Laga GERRY PLUS,they can eat as much as you want to give them and not put on weight. My widowhood cocks have food in front of them 24/7 never without food and 50% of their feed is Gerry Plus. PIgeons wont exercise if they are hungry and wont WIN if they are fat. Just my opinion , others may do different but ive won more than my fair share using that method of feeding. hope this helps.

[dwh]

veresle laga recommends super diet 2 feeds b4 basketing and feed aftr racing

[OLDYELLOW]

heres an intresting article on feeding

http://www.sahpa.asn.au/aerts.htm

[dwh]

heres an intresting article on feeding

http://www.sahpa.asn.au/aerts.htm

you feed heavy old yellow

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

i feed to how i feel i need to feed i feed light building up during racing , as the distance gets further i feed slightly heavier but for easy to sprint no need for as much protein as Aerts said protein takes longer to convert to energy where as carbs are more instant  

[leighton1984]

Diet mix.

This is the thing they are two types that are called diet mix one is to stop the weight I.E resting and one is high in fat to use in the last feeds for racing for energy.

hope that help  

[dwh]

i feed to how i feel i need to feed i feed light building up during racing , as the distance gets further i feed slightly heavier but for easy to sprint no need for as much protein as Aerts said protein takes longer to convert to energy where as carbs are more instant  

is'nt it true the body burns carbs fat protein in that order so i assume

that the reaon 4 ahigh fat pre race feed

[wilkins]

Diet mix.

This is the thing they are two types that are called diet mix one is to stop the weight I.E resting and one is high in fat to use in the last feeds for racing for energy.

hope that help  

 

what one are what and would a dupuritive not be more like the one to stop weight

[wilkins]

tried all the diet mixes and they all work but they seem to have drastically increased in price.Personally my opinion is that the best you can use in Versa Laga GERRY PLUS,they can eat as much as you want to give them and not put on weight. My widowhood cocks have food in front of them 24/7 never without food and 50% of their feed is Gerry Plus. PIgeons wont exercise if they are hungry and wont WIN if they are fat. Just my opinion , others may do different but ive won more than my fair share using that method of feeding. hope this helps.

 

do they take all the graiins or choose certain ones,like the maize and if so at what point would you refill the hopper, i like the idea as i stugglke to get home from work at set times

would you ad barley to the gerry upto tuesday?

[leighton1984]

you have to look on the bags of feed and see what the mix is made up of.

as they are so many brands of corn to pick from you need to see what works for your birds this can take time but when you get the right mix stick to it.

every one do not feed the same as we all do not race the same.

what works for flyer A is no good for flyer B all down the the pigeons you have

[OLDYELLOW]

DURUPATIVE = mainly to keep weight off  

Diet = a little more rich in Carbohydrates , maize and safflower will put weight on birds but because very little protien they'll burn most off during flight / exercise

[wilkins]

DURUPATIVE = mainly to keep weight off  

Diet = a little more rich in Carbohydrates , maize and safflower will put weight on birds but because very little protien they'll burn most off during flight / exercise

 

so would it be better

to feed protein after hard flight to monday or if easy flight dupuritive

then widowhoood corn from from monday night or tuesday depending on distance then add diet to the widow mix from thursday morning to friday

[leighton1984]

low protein last 5 feeds.

[wilkins]

got that leighton but gerry is low preotein high carb , although some fanciers use this early in the week then go on to heavy carbohydrate widow mix

 

would diet not be like adding sunflower etc to gerry plus

[leighton1984]

you have to look at your pigeons and see what they need that's the only way.

if you read what some say they only feed one mix but they do not say that they add to it at some point.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

 

so would it be better

to feed protein after hard flight to monday or if easy flight dupuritive

then widowhoood corn from from monday night or tuesday depending on distance then add diet to the widow mix from thursday morning to friday

 

either way a sprinter or marathon runner wouldnt sit down to a full Sunday dinner after a race  , they'd east light recouperate then eat as normal , body builders only eat loads of protein to bulk up , they eat more carbs to exert themselves

[Tony C]

You might find this helpful wilkins http://www.versele-laga.com/Nutri/Nutrition/Library/Versele-Laga/PDF/Products/EN/Dvnschms2005.pdf

[whiteknight]

Not all birds eat the same .

[dwh]

DURUPATIVE = mainly to keep weight off  

Diet = a little more rich in Carbohydrates , maize and safflower will put weight on birds but because very little protien they'll burn most off during flight / exercise

is'nt diet higher in fats than normal w/hood mix given at meals b4 basketing  as fats have been found to provide as much if not  more fuel than carbs?

 

 

[wilkins]

You might find this helpful wilkins http://www.versele-laga.com/Nutri/Nutrition/Library/Versele-Laga/PDF/Products/EN/Dvnschms2005.pdf

 

thank you tony , very kind

[OLDYELLOW]

Not all birds eat the same .

 

that i also agree with  your statement above i used to feed by pots in the boxes many years ago as instructed to do by a fellow fancier and hed weigh out all the feed by a desert type spoon then after 5 minutes hed go check on them and then start swapping them around one bird liked maples other liked maize and so on so hed swap so they got the grains they wanted , so abit pointless weighing out and measuring there feed out , it creates a bond with there box but i like to see birds competing for there feed this way they eat what you want them to eat rather than pick out what they want  

[OLDYELLOW]

is'nt diet higher in fats than normal w/hood mix given at meals b4 basketing  as fats have been found to provide as much if not  more fuel than carbs?

 

 

i would say yes its higher in fat content and fats do create energy , normal widowhood has more protein which takes longer to convert to energy thats why i put the Jan Aerts article up

[dwh]

 

i would say yes its higher in fat content and fats do create energy , normal widowhood has more protein which takes longer to convert to energy thats why i put the Jan Aerts article up

its afine line is'nt it to much protein turns to fat yet and makes them heavy i add beans when we get down the road  which i think the birds need?