Rearing young birds

[wings]

Hi when the cocks and hens are feeding the young birds they seem to pick through a lot of the food and most of the food goes to waste, i was wondering what is the best food to feed the young so as to avoid all the waste. i was feeding breed and wean last year and they seemed to chuck a lot of the food out and into the droppings any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated

[pjc]

either use hoppers they can't throw food out off or control the feed to prevent waste.

[wings]

either use hoppers they can't throw food out off or control the feed to prevent waste.

 

The problem is they seem to leave all the maize and larger food if i was to use hoppers then they would end up full of maize, what i was looking for was afeed that they would not pick through and eat the whoole lot.

[pjc]

try youngbird no maize.

[wings]

try youngbird no maize.

 

will do. is that what you use?

 

[Guest The main Mahon]

The  problem with feeding a mix by hopper is that they will just pick out what they want and leave the rest.

 

My method is to just feed a good breeding mixture at a slightly higher rate than I would do normally. In feeding that way they will eat the lot. I then have a hopper full of layers pellets always available an if either the babies or the parents need topping up, they will use the layers pellets.

 

hether it's right or wrong, you decide but it works for me and the young seem fine brought up like this.

[wings]

The  problem with feeding a mix by hopper is that they will just pick out what they want and leave the rest.

 

My method is to just feed a good breeding mixture at a slightly higher rate than I would do normally. In feeding that way they will eat the lot. I then have a hopper full of layers pellets always available an if either the babies or the parents need topping up, they will use the layers pellets.

 

hether it's right or wrong, you decide but it works for me and the young seem fine brought up like this.

 

That sounds like agood idea i will probably go with that and see how it goes thanks for the advice

 

 

 

[nogin]

I FEED LITTLE BUT OFTEN IT MAKES THEM CLEAN UP THERE CHUCK EVERY TIME  

[wings]

I FEED LITTLE BUT OFTEN IT MAKES THEM CLEAN UP THERE CHUCK EVERY TIME  

 

The problem with this for me is that me and the wife both work so they can only be feed twice aday at the most.

[nogin]

 

The problem with this for me is that me and the wife both work so they can only be feed twice aday at the most.

 

OH WELL THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT M8 :-/

[Guest IB]

I have the same experience with mixes, there always seems to be something in it that they don't need / want - with rearing its maize, they toss it.

 

Having a bash at mixing my own, during breeding will feed only a little maize.

[blaz]

i used versalaga breed and wean this year .hopper fed them right through the season .their was food in hopper 24  7.  when birds started to get trained to race and through racing i added emperor mix and Jerry plus.the birds would pick out what they new was best for the yb,s and feed them. as the older birds where raced to yb,s or eggs.i always had food in the hoppers. the birds know what seed to eat for themselves.the hoppers i used where deep not like the near flat ones you see for sale. it is also good for yb when they leave the nest as they are quick at picking up where the food is. it gets them sorted for going through to yb secsion.this is just my way of breeding and racing my birds.each to their own

[Guest The main Mahon]

I'm the same as you Wings but I only feed once a day due to working 10 hour days and a one and a half hour commute each way to and from work. As I said, it doesn't seem to affect the babies though.

[jimmy white]

when rearing young birds , the adult birds will eat very little maize, the growth rate of the yb,s from birth to 21 days is is very great,, and for this much protein is needed,, the birds themselves will tell you that,, i would suggest a galley pot of maples , in each nest box, kept topped up,, [even two galley pots ] this off course will encourage the yb,s to eat at a very early age, taking less out the ob,s,, i would also put baby milk in their water, [vits and protein],, then feed a mix of an evening , then a couple of  handfull of peanuts,,,,,, hopper feeding a mixture, will only produce wasted grub,

[blaz]

when rearing young birds , the adult birds will eat very little maize, the growth rate of the yb,s from birth to 21 days is is very great,, and for this much protein is needed,, the birds themselves will tell you that,, i would suggest a galley pot of maples , in each nest box, kept topped up,, [even two galley pots ] this off course will encourage the yb,s to eat at a very early age, taking less out the ob,s,, i would also put baby milk in their water, [vits and protein],, then feed a mix of an evening , then a couple of  handfull of peanuts,,,,,, hopper feeding a mixture, will only produce wasted grub,

 

beg to differ on this one jimmy. i did not waste grub this season and hopper fed right through  with food in hopper 24 7.

[john bingham]

i tend to just use 75% beans and an cheap mix this yr guna try some pellets not sure which ones they are on the hopper  

[jimmy white]

I have the same experience with mixes, there always seems to be something in it that they don't need / want - with rearing its maize, they toss it.

 

Having a bash at mixing my own, during breeding will feed only a little maize.

 

i can only speak for myself , but have to say have found this post spot on,,

[THE FIFER]

i use versa laga breeding plus,

[blaz]

i use versa laga breeding plus,

 

what is the diffrence in the breed and wean to the breeding plus

[THE FIFER]

 

what is the diffrence in the breed and wean to the breeding plus

 

the plus mixtures have pellets in them, i think the breed and wean is the new name for breeding, but as said plus mixes have pellets in them

[blaz]

 

the plus mixtures have pellets in them, i think the breed and wean is the new name for breeding, but as said plus mixes have pellets in them

 

might try it come breeding season

[frank-123]

someone bred me youngbirds last year they were in strong well built youngbirds  compared to mine

his feed 50% breeding mix 50% layers pellets so it looks like i might give it a try this coming year

[BLACK W F]

if your going to use the chicken pellets try and get the rearers  they are the best  what i do is fill all pots with pellets only and leave a hopper on floor filled with pellets  when i come home at night i hand feed a mixture  but beware they tend to drink more water when useing pellets  so i put an extra drinker in  you will rear cracking big y/bs  have done it this way for years  

[Skull Lofts]

someone bred me youngbirds last year they were in strong well built youngbirds  compared to mine

his feed 50% breeding mix 50% layers pellets so it looks like i might give it a try this coming year

 

My mix is made up of 50% youngbird and 50% Chicken Finisher pellets to which i ad Hemp and Koi fish pellets.

 

The babys looks verry well!

 

Skull

[dwh]

bean and more beans + agood breeding mix once a day